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    Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    American exceptionalism is the theory that the United States is qualitatively different from other nation states.[2] In this view, U.S. exceptionalism stems from its emergence from a revolution, becoming what political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset called "the first new nation"[2] and developing a uniquely American ideology, "Americanism", based on liberty, egalitarianism, individualism, republicanism, populism and laissez-faire.[3] This ideology itself is often referred to as "American exceptionalism."[3] American exceptionalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Hell no. What makes us so much "exceptional than other countries"?
    Ill let one of the greatest current TV shows to explain the rest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49NOyJ8fNA


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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    As an ideal, yes. Our values as Americans are great. Maybe not the best, that's hard to judge, but certainly great. But being American doesn't make us better. It gives us something to strive for. Too many Americans trade on our past accomplishments and fail to make future accomplishments a reality. As Americans, we are called to something greater. We must live up to that ideal.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Hell no. What makes us so much "exceptional than other countries"?
    Ill let one of the greatest current TV shows to explain the rest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49NOyJ8fNA


    I'd argue that the USA is exceptional by nearly all measures. Historically, militarily, culturally, socially, scientifically, agriculturally, and industrially.
    No other nation comes close across these measures, and the continued flooding to our shores of the worlds immigrants suggests others see it this way as well.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Once again, another poll that excludes so many Americans. I am neither right nor left, but feel I have the best of both parties beliefs in that I am a Libertarian.

    I do not believe in American Exceptionalism. I believe that any nation, bordered on two sides by vast oceans to protect it from other competing powers, blessed with untouched mineral and food reserves since the beginning of time, and inhabited mostly by one people speaking a common tongue (and suppressing those that didn't), was bound to become what our nation has become, even if a great number of that population might fall into the range of those that are considered backward, psychotic, or more.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    [IMG]http://media.nbcphiladelphia.com/images/654*368/Statue+of+Liberty+American+Flag.jpg[/IMG]
    I have lived and worked in a number of countries and found that there is definitely a different quality to basic attitudes on how to approach questions. Having said that, it is important to remember how little homogenous cultures are looking at them in detail.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by SayMyName View Post
    Once again, another poll that excludes so many Americans. I am neither right nor left, but feel I have the best of both parties beliefs in that I am a Libertarian.

    I do not believe in American Exceptionalism. I believe that any nation, bordered on two sides by vast oceans to protect it from other competing powers, blessed with untouched mineral and food reserves since the beginning of time, and inhabited mostly by one people speaking a common tongue (and suppressing those that didn't), was bound to become what our nation has become, even if a great number of that population might fall into the range of those that are considered backward, psychotic, or more.
    The definition of Libertarian is not moderate, and within libertarianism there is a left and right. I can't seem to think of any other nation that fits your criteria, pray tell what other nations you might be referring to. If there are none, well perhaps that makes us the exception.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    As an ideal, yes. Our values as Americans are great. Maybe not the best, that's hard to judge, but certainly great. But being American doesn't make us better. It gives us something to strive for. Too many Americans trade on our past accomplishments and fail to make future accomplishments a reality. As Americans, we are called to something greater. We must live up to that ideal.
    I dont know that American exceptionalism implies that our nation is superior. My question was merely if the US is the exception across most of the parameters that compose a nation.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont know that American exceptionalism implies that our nation is superior. My question was merely if the US is the exception across most of the parameters that compose a nation.
    It only is if we make it that way. That is an enduring process, not a default status. Being exceptional is not something one can rest on their laurels about. It must be striven for every day. There are people who still think we're superior because of World War II. Those people are idiots and are bringing the country down. Being exceptional today does not make us exceptional tomorrow. We must earn that every day. I think that we can, because our ideals are exceptional, but we fail to live up to them far too often.
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    Because the owners, the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy… the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.

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    They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want:

    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests.

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    By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a **** about you….they don’t give a **** about you… they don’t give a **** about you.

    They don’t care about you at all… at all… AT ALL. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thats being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.

    It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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