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Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?


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And you don't see the US as an exceptional nation.
Nope. I see it as a nation no different to many others. We have many good things about our country, and many bad things.

Maybe not right now in context thanks to our muslim president from Kenya.
Yup. We went there. Obama is still a Muslim president from Kenya. Let the conspiracies fly!
 
Most modern socialists disdain nationalism. Workers of the world unite, and ****. :roll:

Actually thats not entirely true. Many national liberation causes that are also socialist use nationalism. They use nationalism as an anti-imperialist ideology for their liberation. Examples of this would be Fatah, DFLP, Black Panthers, Partisan movements during WW2, etc.
 
No. That is limitation based on you actually impinging on others' rights to life. The right not to be deprived of life is a negative right - it's something others can't take from you. The right not to be offended is a positive right - it is to say that whatever you find offensive, everyone else has the obligation to change their behavior around, even if they are incapable of predicting it.
Limitation is limitation. As far as many European countries see it hatred is a "negative right". Calling for a race/ethnicity to die/be deported/undermine them can be a "negative right".



Uh. Yes..
As far as I can tell it really doesnt except it makes some people warm and fuzzy inside. Many western countires dont have that wording in their founding documents and the same rights that we respect are respected in their country as well.
 
I believe that America is exceptional in many ways. I don't think there is any other country where I would rather live. We have a little bit of everything here, which is just one of the perks of America. Being a melting pot has it's advantages.
 
Actually thats not entirely true. Many national liberation causes that are also socialist use nationalism. They use nationalism as an anti-imperialist ideology for their liberation. Examples of this would be Fatah, DFLP, Black Panthers, Partisan movements during WW2, etc.

There are forms of socialism that have operated on a nationalist basis, but you'd have to say that Marx was fairly clear that nationalism is a bourgeois construction of post-feudal capitalism. At best he argued that it could be a feature of the transitional phase between capitalism and communism. For me there seem to be too many inherent conflicts for nationalism and socialism to be compatible.
 
There are forms of socialism that have operated on a nationalist basis, but you'd have to say that Marx was fairly clear that nationalism is a bourgeois construction of post-feudal capitalism. At best he argued that it could be a feature of the transitional phase between capitalism and communism. For me there seem to be too many inherent conflicts for nationalism and socialism to be compatible.

Of course in the context of Marxian socialism that he makes it pretty clear that nationalism is a disease. They say, ""the working class have no country ". But in context of national liberation many socialist parties/guerilla groups (even if they claimed to be marxist or not) did use nationalism as a way to forward their struggle for national liberation.
 
Of course in the context of Marxian socialism that he makes it pretty clear that nationalism is a disease. They say, ""the working class have no country ". But in context of national liberation many socialist parties/guerilla groups (even if they claimed to be marxist or not) did use nationalism as a way to forward their struggle for national liberation.

Yes, yes they did with varying degrees of failure. ;) Workers of (this little bit) of the world, unite!
 
Nope. I see it as a nation no different to many others. We have many good things about our country, and many bad things.


Yup. We went there. Obama is still a Muslim president from Kenya. Let the conspiracies fly!
No conspiracy. Truth.
 
Dyslexics of the world untie!
 
No conspiracy. Truth.

Yeaaaa.......... Sure it is..
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That is an answer. You are too thick to understand it? Not my problem. You just sit and hate America.

You just sit there and make mindless assertions because you can't debate the issue intelligently. Therefore, you have to conjure up straw men about those who don't buy into your unsupported claims. It's okay, we all see right through you.
 
Nope. I see it as a nation no different to many others. We have many good things about our country, and many bad things.


Yup. We went there. Obama is still a Muslim president from Kenya. Let the conspiracies fly!


Yes Libya is the WORLDS POLICE .. and the guard of humanity..
 
I remember when Nigeria stopped Hitlers march across Europe....
 
You just sit there and make mindless assertions because you can't debate the issue intelligently. Therefore, you have to conjure up straw men about those who don't buy into your unsupported claims. It's okay, we all see right through you.
No strawman to it. You don't believe in US excpetionalism. If you must ask why I do, you wouldn't understand the answer.
 
Yes Libya is the WORLDS POLICE .. and the guard of humanity..

:roll: So being the policemen of the world make us exceptional? Having a huge military and being the world militaristic force makes us exceptional? Going on bombing campaigns makes us exceptional? Having a military industrial complex which partially dominates our politics and our economy makes us exceptional?
 
Quoting sponge bob. Real good way to be taken seriously. You lose, now all you got is to make fun of things.

Yea.. You believe in conspiracies theories that have been debunked.. :lamo
 
:roll: So being the policemen of the world make us exceptional? Having a huge military and being the world militaristic force makes us exceptional? Going on bombing campaigns makes us exceptional? Having a military industrial complex which partially dominates our politics and our economy makes us exceptional?

yes.......
 
I hate the idea of American exceptionalism as a reason why we have the right or obligation to get ourselves entangled in other nation's affairs or impose our will, our way of life, our economic institutions or systems, or "our" corporate interests on other nations. We do not have that right. It is merely nationalistic arrogance. We should lead by example, not by force.

The USA's history and culture are unique (although Canadia is pretty close), but the same is true of every nation. The best thing about the USA is that we have mostly maintained the Bill of Rights and a relatively (representational) democratic government, but several other countries have the equivalent of that now also.
 
yes.......

How does being an empire make our country exceptional? Many empires have come and gone... Hell most Americans dont even want our military presence and how much we spend on military. So apparently most Americans dont like something, that in your opinion, makes us "exceptional"
 
How does being an empire make our country exceptional? Many empires have come and gone... Hell most Americans dont even want our military presence and how much we spend on military. So apparently most Americans dont like something, that in your opinion, makes us "exceptional"


we are the worlds police for democracy and for world order.. period

with that comes ultimate responsiblity and hence makes us exceptional..period.

granted Obama sees it your way..I do not
 
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