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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    I dont like how the poll sticks you into a catagory of left or right leaning beliefs because there are certainly people who don't lean left, or right exclusively. For instance, I have many beliefs on both sides, and that is what I really love about america. Is that you can have differing opinions and you dont have to pigeonhole yourself into a political suit per say. Even as much as people try to force a label on you, you can prove you don't fit that label by simply having your own opinion instead of being a left or right leaning robot puppetting the current values of the label you paint on yourself weather it is democrat, republican, libratarian.... I think we need to throw off these labels and begin thinking for ourselves rather then being a pedestal for someone elses thoughts.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    To ask, "do you love your nation" or "is your nation special" sounds appropriate. To say, "do you believe your nation exhibits exceptionalism" sounds arrogant. I would rather let others toot our horn, to do it ourselves looks like bragging.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    NO VOTE !
    The option " I am balanced" is missing
    neither a liberal nor a conservative be
    rather, be a realist...
    exceptional ?
    in some ways - maybe..

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    To ask, "do you love your nation" or "is your nation special" sounds appropriate. To say, "do you believe your nation exhibits exceptionalism" sounds arrogant. I would rather let others toot our horn, to do it ourselves looks like bragging.
    I don't think there is anything wrong with bragging. As long as your bragging does not entail a sense of unwarranted or damaging nationalism. There is a difference between being proud at the things America is really good at, and having a sense of nationalistic exceptionalism where almost everything the US does is better then anyone else, even when it does it worse then other countries.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    I'm neither right nor left, but I'm Green so many of my sympathies are left-leaning. As regards exceptionalism. We have ten hand digits, ten feet digits, an approximate 98 deegree temp, and we keep the hairy end up. What's exceptional about that? It's more common than horse turds, around the world. Now, the question of Dame Fortune, circumstance, co-incidence, and timing would be more appropriate for our current existential reality. If our destruction of the environment is a criteria, then we are certainly exceptional, exceptionally ignorant!

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    "Be true to your school!"
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    They say you can put a dog on a throne. But if you throw a bone on the floor, he will leap from the throne to get the bone. The US had a chance to be truly exceptional. Right at the point when the USSR removed troops from Germany, we could have worked with them to form a harmonious world order, as was Gorbhachev's vision. Using the tremendous power of the Federal Reserve, we could have educated our citizens and created a sustainable energy infrastructure. Instead, like the dog on the throne we decided to trumpet to the rest of the world that we had won the cold war, that we were in charge now, and that we would unilaterally dictate a new world order. Now we are drowning in debt, have increased the hatred of Muslims around the world, and have wasted money and precious American lives, with nothing to show for it. Doesn't sound so exceptional to me. It's the same story of empires that have come and gone by over extending themselves out of greed and arrogance. You can put a dog on a throne, but if you throw it a bone, he will show his true colors.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    The question as I see it, is "Our we exceptional?"

    Yes, of course we are. Of the top brands in the world, the vast, vast majority are from American companies. We still own IT. We invented National Parks. We are the strongest country on earth. I can go on.. I don't think we are the greatest country on earth, because by many measures other countries outperform us and besides "greatest" is completely subjective. However we are certainly exceptional.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I don't think there is anything wrong with bragging. As long as your bragging does not entail a sense of unwarranted or damaging nationalism. There is a difference between being proud at the things America is really good at, and having a sense of nationalistic exceptionalism where almost everything the US does is better then anyone else, even when it does it worse then other countries.
    I didn't say there's anything wrong with being proud of achievements or even mentioning it. But the word "exceptionalism" sounds like we're saying, "everyone else stinks in comparison." We may have set enviable standards, but plenty of other nations have definitely added some cultural benefits to the world.

    Being born an American doesn't automatically make anyone great. I think we have to continually work hard at being the country that believes in people.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I didn't say there's anything wrong with being proud of achievements or even mentioning it. But the word "exceptionalism" sounds like we're saying, "everyone else stinks in comparison." We may have set enviable standards, but plenty of other nations have definitely added some cultural benefits to the world.

    Being born an American doesn't automatically make anyone great. I think we have to continually work hard at being the country that believes in people.
    I would agree with everything you said. But being proud of your country and what it has achieved, which in my case is the US, is not US exceptionalism.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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