View Poll Results: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

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  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    9 13.04%
  • Im not American, yes.

    1 1.45%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    8 11.59%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    18 26.09%
  • Im not American, no.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    to be honest I dont give your posts much credence..
    Then why do you reply to me?


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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Then why do you reply to me?
    I felt like it.. but your words are just liberal trash..

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    I felt like it.. but your words are just liberal trash..
    Nothing like implying all arguments that disagree with you as "liberal trash". Defeats the purpose of having a logical debate.
    Last edited by TheDemSocialist; 06-03-14 at 04:51 PM.


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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nothing like implying all arguments that disagree with you as "liberal trash". Defeats the purpose of having a logical debate.
    Im really fine with that.. there is not a chance we will ever agree on anything.... I just glance at your posts at most to be honest..

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Obama is still a Muslim president from Kenya."
    Glad you agree.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I'd argue that the USA is exceptional by nearly all measures. Historically, militarily, culturally, socially, scientifically, agriculturally, and industrially.
    No other nation comes close across these measures, and the continued flooding to our shores of the worlds immigrants suggests others see it this way as well.

    I disagree. My own country for example hasn't been invaded for nearly 1000 years, invented a language spoken and read worldwide, conquered a third of the world, industrialised the world and even today our culture is celebrated worldwide from Shakespeare to the world cup.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Glad you agree.
    No i dont. Because those claims are nothing but conspiracy crap unfounded in non factual information that has been debunked over and over again.


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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I have not entered your poll because, as with many others here, I do not readily fall into the arbitrary categories. However, that is not to say that yours is not an interesting and thought provoking question, or that I do not have a point of view on the matter.

    Any -ism is essentially ideological, and the definition published in the Wikipedia is merely the view of the contributor/s concerned. The term American Exceptionalism is used variously, and there is no universal definition governing its use.

    Is the USA as a society, and are Americans as a people, exceptional? I would say so, but only to the extent that every society is atypical in many ways. Do I believe in American Exceptionalism - of course not! The term and concept is redolent of inherent and intrinsic superiority, and is as ridiculous as believing in intrinsic conservative or socialist superiority. We are all different, with varying strengths and weaknesses.

    There is no best country on earth, and none of us is inherently superior, irrespective of our geographic location, or socio-political beliefs. That is a nonsensical and puerile concept.

    It is my view that Americans are accomplished enough, intelligent enough, and generous enough, not to have to bolster their self-confidence with such adolescent self-promotion. You simply have no need of it.
    You are demonstrating the traits of several posters here. Despite a clearly defined and clarified definition, you decide to "feel" what the definition is. At that point we are no longer discussing the same topic. You think the question actually is "should americans believe they are superior". That was not the question. Lets not turn this into the oxygen network.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually thats not entirely true. Many national liberation causes that are also socialist use nationalism. They use nationalism as an anti-imperialist ideology for their liberation. Examples of this would be Fatah, DFLP, Black Panthers, Partisan movements during WW2, etc.
    Lets not confuse ethnic socialist groups and arab socialism (its own distinct brand) with the general rule. Arguing that the exceptions are significant is wasting everyones time. Its true enough.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    There are forms of socialism that have operated on a nationalist basis, but you'd have to say that Marx was fairly clear that nationalism is a bourgeois construction of post-feudal capitalism. At best he argued that it could be a feature of the transitional phase between capitalism and communism. For me there seem to be too many inherent conflicts for nationalism and socialism to be compatible.
    Its a distinct form we have seen before, and is making a resurgence in Europe. The Nazi's and Fascists saw themselves as socialists, but also were nationalists.

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