View Poll Results: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

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  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    26 37.68%
  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    9 13.04%
  • Im not American, yes.

    1 1.45%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    8 11.59%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    18 26.09%
  • Im not American, no.

    7 10.14%
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    China and Russia haven't become ashamed of themselves yet. Our left has been hating on the US for some time.

    Its been said that the American left "loves" the US like an abusive husband "loves" his wife by beating her. There might be something there.
    "Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: Precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from."

    "If you listen to a lot of conservatives, they'll tell you that the difference between them and us is that conservatives love America and liberals hate America.... They don't get it. We love America just as much as they do. But in a different Way. You see, they love America the way a 4-year-old loves her Mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups.

    To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad, and helping your loved one grow. Love takes attention and work and is the best thing in the world."

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    Sen. Franken, of course, is exactly right.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Sen. Franken, of course, is exactly right.
    Actually, take a look at the poll results. I was right.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Actually, take a look at the poll results. I was right.
    Yes, because this is a scientific poll.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yes, because this is a scientific poll.
    I dont think thats the burden on a political discussion board, do you?

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont think thats the burden on a political discussion board, do you?
    "Its been said that the American left "loves" the US like an abusive husband "loves" his wife by beating her."

    How do you get that from the poll?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Its been said that the American left "loves" the US like an abusive husband "loves" his wife by beating her."

    How do you get that from the poll?
    Read the post for context, you need it.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Read the post for context, you need it.
    I'm trying to make heads or tails of your inane statement.

    Is it your claim that liberals don't "love America" because many of us find the whole "American exceptionalism" concept to be stupid?

    The U.S. is a great country, I thank my lucky stars I was born here. And the U.S. has accomplished many amazing things. However, the "we're better than you are" arrogance of "American exceptionalism," a doctrine that seems (at least on its surface) to be that America is fundamentally different and better just because, ignores the nation's flaws and paints an inaccurate picture.
    Last edited by Kobie; 06-03-14 at 12:33 AM.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm trying to make heads or tails of your inane statement.

    Is it your claim that liberals don't "love America" because many of us find the whole "American exceptionalism" concept to be stupid?

    The U.S. is a great country, I thank my lucky stars I was born here. And the U.S. has accomplished many amazing things. However, the "we're better than you are" arrogance of "American exceptionalism," a doctrine that seems (at least on its surface) to be that America is fundamentally different and better just because, ignores the nation's flaws and paints an inaccurate picture.
    As Ive already stated, exceptional does not imply superiority. Thats a value judgement YOU are ignorantly making. Id suggest that reading for context isn't a bad thing, while arguing from ignorance is.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by us conservative View Post
    100% yes

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont think thats the burden on a political discussion board, do you?
    Oh of course not, because to most of today's conservatives, facts are MEANINGLESS.
    Why? Because to many of today's hardcore conservatives, belief trumps fact and science is all "lies from the Pit of Hell".



    So that's a really excellent poll question which actually deserves its own thread.
    Is there a factual burden that should be respected on a political discussion board?
    Is scientific fact worthwhile when discussing political issues?
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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