View Poll Results: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    What someone says and what someone means are often two different things. And the word "exceptionalism" is sort of self explanatory in meaning.

    If you have to ring your own bell and tell the world you're great, you might not be as exceptional as you think?
    You are justifying the fail in using the clearly defined term from the op. Stop defending mediocrity.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    It was a mind set that the US was the top of the food chain. Best and brightest. We always have been the shining light on the hill that all other nations strive to be. Don't believe it? Look how many people came here.
    I don't seem to remember a mass exodus of people from the US heading to Europe in the early 1900s.
    China and Russia haven't become ashamed of themselves yet. Our left has been hating on the US for some time.

    Its been said that the American left "loves" the US like an abusive husband "loves" his wife by beating her. There might be something there.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's such a dramatic difference that I'd argue that modern Greece is an entirely different nation than thousands of years ago when they actually made a difference to the world. It's one of those "what have they done for us recently" things.
    Absolutely.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Super-patriots are often the first ones to threaten secession.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly, the entire idea of what some call American exceptionalism has been politicized by the right as some sort of lame shorthand for "F the rest of the world cause we are different here and nothing you heathens do matters to us or reflects upon us".
    I see it more as sneered at cruelly by the left. Its said that conservatives are thankful for what is, while liberals are furious for what isn't. Perhaps that explains the difference.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    It's not.

    It's a market economy protected by a military. China is not communist. The fact that you think it is demonstrates a lack of education.
    Sorry, I disagree. Its adopted some traits of capitalism, as Ive said.
    China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Okay, why would you love something just because your mother happened to drop you here? Is that rational?
    If it has to be explained to you, I feel sorry for you. You probably should find greener pastures elsewhere.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    As an ideal, yes. Our values as Americans are great. Maybe not the best, that's hard to judge, but certainly great. But being American doesn't make us better. It gives us something to strive for. Too many Americans trade on our past accomplishments and fail to make future accomplishments a reality. As Americans, we are called to something greater. We must live up to that ideal.
    This has a sort of 'Kiplingesque' ring to it, a variation on the 19th century 'The White Man's Burden' idea. I don't feel the U.S. has to be 'greater', and has nothing to apologize for or prove to the rest of the world. Most of the rest of the world sucks in comparison, and sucked long before there was an 'America'; let all those other assholes strive to be 'greater' for a while.
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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    China and Russia haven't become ashamed of themselves yet. Our left has been hating on the US for some time.

    Its been said that the American left "loves" the US like an abusive husband "loves" his wife by beating her. There might be something there.
    Well, few other countries have a yellow press that prefers hysterical sniveling to the boring reports on 'reality', and this is just as true for the Right's media hacks as it is the 'Left's'. Most other countries can keep their dirty laundry under wraps, as they control their press and keep outsiders from getting too close, hence 'journalists' and talking heads follow the path of least resistance and regurgitate half-assed 'stories' without much critical analysis, and have credulous people convinced we're just the most evilest country ever or whatever. Put China under the same microscope, or 3 fourths of the rest of the planet, and let's see the differences.

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    Re: Do you believe in American Exceptionalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Well, few other countries have a yellow press that prefers hysterical sniveling to the boring reports on 'reality', and this is just as true for the Right's media hacks as it is the 'Left's'. Most other countries can keep their dirty laundry under wraps, as they control their press and keep outsiders from getting too close, hence 'journalists' and talking heads follow the path of least resistance and regurgitate half-assed 'stories' without much critical analysis, and have credulous people convinced we're just the most evilest country ever or whatever. Put China under the same microscope, or 3 fourths of the rest of the planet, and let's see the differences.
    Absolutely, this actually has its roots in Marxist critical theory. Essentially, paint the US as an awful place, only criticize, and offer no context.

    Social marxism had to go there, as it could no longer defend marxism on an economic level, so its taken its fight to the culture, in an effort to facilitate "revolution".

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