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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    Since this is identified as a "Korean War Memorial", then whomever the city contracted to create the thing blew it. On the other hand, I can't believe the city just paid the money without seeing the design and approving it before it was put in place.

    The memorial should be replaced and the costs should be shared by the city and the designer.
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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    The best war memorial in Washington D.C. is the Korean War. Especially in the snow.

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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    The workmanship itself is beautiful, but yes, if there are so many mistakes, the memorial should be redone. Since it was accepted and the 'artist' was paid for the work, I'm not sure there is sufficient moral or legal justification to make the artist re-do it at his own expense. If it was not satisfactory, the design should have been rejected in advance of the work, and then if it did not meet the agreed specifications, the completed work should have been rejected before a check was cut.

    One thing I noted in the news story was that the project had been outsourced to India????? Are there no artists in Ohio who could have screwed it up?
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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    The workmanship itself is beautiful, but yes, if there are so many mistakes, the memorial should be redone. Since it was accepted and the 'artist' was paid for the work, I'm not sure there is sufficient moral or legal justification to make the artist re-do it at his own expense. If it was not satisfactory, the design should have been rejected in advance of the work, and then if it did not meet the agreed specifications, the completed work should have been rejected before a check was cut.

    One thing I noted in the news story was that the project had been outsourced to India????? Are there no artists in Ohio who could have screwed it up?
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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should this memorial be replaced?
    I tend to agree that it is odd honor that is so ambivalent as to make a mess of mistakes and slights on memorial. Personally I think that the people that are responsible should have to replace the stone at their own costs.

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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    The best war memorial in Washington D.C. is the Korean War. Especially in the snow.

    Should this memorial be replaced?-korean-war-jpg
    Should this memorial be replaced?-koreanwarmemorialsnow-jpg
    Yes. That is a good one.

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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    What a shame...it looks really cool (otherwise).

    How about slicing off the bottom (including the tank)...that seems to be where the visual screw ups are?

    Plus, just add the missing names to a new base rock.
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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should this memorial be replaced?
    "Production was outsourced to India....."


    They pay no honor to the dead. I suggest they would have done more good by getting a local stone mason to carve some names in a rock....at least then it would have reflected the ideal of Americans for Americans instead of new age outsourcing for convenience.

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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    The best war memorial in Washington D.C. is the Korean War. Especially in the snow.
    I have always been uncomfortable with the Korean War Memorial. It depicts an American Infantry patrol. The Infantry I grew up in said wearing a poncho out on patrol was a big bozo no-no. It is highly reflective- shiny. It is very noisy, even when in open country- like wearing corduroy pants. It is bulky, making movement a bit clumsy. It doesn't allow easy access to ammo or grenades, not a plus in a fire fight and that is what a patrol is constantly on guard for since they are making enough noise to draw unwanted attention.

    So it has always puzzled me why the patrol is wearing them. Perhaps because the detail free ponchos are easier, cheaper and faster to do compared to the detail intensive web gear soldiers wear.

    Still for a memorial in our Nation's Capital is seems a bit amateurish.

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    Re: Should this memorial be replaced?

    The outsourced to India aspect really bothers me. First, considering the era, I think many of those who are being honored would be offended, and it's supposed to be for them. Even today, it just doesn't seem right. It's not the end of the world, but I don't think it's right.

    Second, what do Indians know about American history? Then again... and it saddens me to even think this... would Americans have done any better? Some would, of course, but it's by no means a given.

    Third, the stone with the names, at the very least, should be replaced. That is a given.

    Fourth, a single historical error can be forgiven, but this has so many errors that one has to conclude that they didn't even try. They just slapped some scheit together. If I interpreted the story correctly, the design was approved prior to creation, so the onus falls on the people who commissioned the piece.

    Personally, I'd suggest trashing it and replacing with a larger stone simply with all the names... leaving room in case a few more are missed.
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