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Thread: Nanny State Legislation Poll

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    Re: Nanny State Legislation Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Pero.

    Back in the "old" days, when our Republic was young, legislators would meet at intervals, conduct the business that needed to be done, then they went back home. No career politicians and no pensions for life - they had lives outside of the political arena which kept them occupied. This country got along just fine, too. I don't know when all that changed, but it sure wasn't a change for the better - look at what we have today! Busybodies who want to regulate as much of our lives as they can get away with! WTH!

    When I logged on this morning, I got the shock of my life when I read the thread about Obama considering using the military against the people of this country. Huh? What the Hell is going on, and why??
    Did you know at first all a congressman was paid was per diem. No salary, no health benefits, no pension, nothing but expenses. But back then it was expect a citizen would leave his job, donate a term or two to public service and then return to his job. The idea was serving the country, not making it a career or doing things, passing laws that they think will ensure their re-election.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Nanny State Legislation Poll

    Somehow government went from being the umpire to being one of the teams--or at least being the equipment used by one side to beat, as a club, the other teams.

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    Re: Nanny State Legislation Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Many people argue that the government should regulate/prohibit only those activities that harm other people, not activities that harm solely the people who freely and voluntarily consent to engage in those activities.

    For example, many people would say the government should prohibit murder, but not smoking weed.

    Part of this is based on the idea that it is really difficult and paternalistic to say that an activity "harms" the person if they voluntarily chose to engage in the activity.

    But there are many activities that have no tangible, harmful effect until many months or years down the line, at which point the effect becomes quite serious. If the government has evidence that 10 years down the line, 70% of people who engage in a specific activity regret their decision and wish they hadn't engaged in the activity, does that give the government grounds to prohibit or regulate the activity?
    At the level of harm you describe, no. I would not consider regretting a decision made to be a palpable harm.

    The part of your post I bolded is false. I smoke. I do so voluntarily. If does harm my body. That is just one of many examples. By what you are saying in that sentence, carried out to an extreme, is that saying suicide is "difficult and paternalistic to say" harms the person, which should be clearly false.
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