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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Child cruelty or just some good old fashioned discipline?? If you think the former, what 'punishment' do you approve of?


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    Personally, I don't believe the punishment is productive, but that's just me. Secondly, I see it's now called "child cruelty" - what happened to child abuse? Basically, from where I come from, it impossible to raise a respectful, responsible, decent child without being "cruel" to them in many ways. But that's not abuse. I agree with Gipper, judges who make those convicted of crimes stand on corners with signs announcing their crimes and subjecting them to ridicule from complete strangers are far more "cruel" than this man. And considering the state of "fatherless" children in black communities in America, I'd be on the street corner giving this caring father a medal for trying to teach his son responsibility.

    I have a feeling this charge will be dropped by the district attorney involved - there is no chance of a conviction and it just makes them look foolish to pursue it.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    I don't know that it's a particularly effective punishment but I don't see anything that leads me to believe it was abuse.

    It's nice to see a black father involved in his child's life too.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Child cruelty or just some good old fashioned discipline?? If you think the former, what 'punishment' do you approve of?


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    I think this is a little ridiculous for the father to be charged.

    It's situational, as far as should the police have warned the father, not to repeat this kind of discipline. In the sense that if the child was a wimpy, small boy who's arms literally cramped from carrying the stone, or was he a strapping 6' 180lb+ school wrestler, football player that carrying the rock was a breeze?

    I saw a Dean spank a school bully (big boy) in Jr High, and the kid literally laughed as he walked out the office.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    What is 'ground combat school'?

    I did Advanced Infantry Training at Ft. Puke back in the day, we did crawl, walk, run to get into shape for the 12 mile road march under ruck. Course we weren't 16 either.

    While I never was sent to CCF, I did have a private go there... sounds far more like CCF than 'ground combat school'.

    Some others tell tales of what their Daddy did to them and think if the action doesn't rise to their abuse it isn't abuse. My dad (step dad) punched me a few times, once hard enough it knocked me out. I don't hold a grudge but I also don't think a parent should do that as it is abuse.

    my thought on dickhead dad... soldiers enlist for such treatment and without approval of an Officer this sort of 'remedial' training wouldn't be dealt out. There is a difference between a minor and an adult.
    It was actually called Air Base Ground Defense school but I figured that most folks wouldn't know what ABGD stood for.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I had to get up at 4 AM all the time as a kid to shovel the driveway before my dad left for work. Is that child abuse too?
    I bet you had to wrestle a bear for your schoolbooks too.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Right and you are a "libertarian", sure.
    This coming from a Con that hides behind other as his lean. Spare me your diatribe.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's great if the kid were an adult. But he wasn't.

    Hey I got an idea, I got gassed in Basic, let's go gas our children too, I mean, what's the harm right?
    Talk about hyperbole. But hey, I guess you would just call the police on dad.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    This coming from a Con that hides behind other as his lean. Spare me your diatribe.
    Never hid behind anyone, liar.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Never hid behind anyone, liar.
    I can see my comment went right over your head Con. But then again I'm not surprised.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Child Abuse Laws

    By Georgia Law, child abuse includes the following acts:

    Physical injury or death inflicted upon a child by a parent or caretaker thereof, by other than accidental means; provided, however, physical forms of discipline may be used as long as there is not physical injury to the child.
    Neglect or exploitation of a child by a parent or caretaker thereof.
    Sexual abuse or sexual exploitation of a child.
    No child, who in good faith is being treated solely by spiritual means through prayer in accordance with the tenets and practices of a recognized church or religious denomination by a duly accredited practitioner thereof shall, for that reason alone, by considered to be an “abused” child.
    Nowhere in that story did I here anything about the kid being physically injured, it sounds like he was punished in a way the father AND mother thought was appropriate. I don't see any issue here other than the police overstepping their boundaries. That being said, the article isn't very information so this is based on limited information.
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