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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Long arm of the government is now the police?

    Hyperbole much? Go spread that bull**** elsewhere.
    Go raise sissies somewhere else.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Go raise sissies somewhere else.
    I'll stay here, you're free to leave anytime you want. Don't like it, go pound sand. Good on the police.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    I can't label it as "child cruelty" because I've seen real child cruelty as have the rest of you.

    I've also had people tell me softly paddling a child's behind is cruelty. I think cruelty is a word that is best used when it's really cruelty.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I noticed you left out this part:



    Sorry, but yes, that is child abuse.
    I had to get up at 4 AM all the time as a kid to shovel the driveway before my dad left for work. Is that child abuse too?
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I read the article. My dad made me and my bothers and sisters do the same bloody things. Unless there is something else here, the police have grossly overstepped their bounds. The arrest was completely unwarranted. $3500 bond??? Family counseling???? What a bunch of horse****.
    No kidding.

    At 16 I had a tendency to come home from "the movies" totally wasted and at 3am. Pop never said a word but he'd make sure I was up at 6am, had a greasy breakfast and was at some job site by 7am lugging block, cleaning up demo, mixing mud by hand, digging trenches, you name it and I was doing it all day long.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'll stay here, you're free to leave anytime you want. Don't like it, go pound sand. Good on the police.
    Right and you are a "libertarian", sure.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I haven't done anything like this to my boys... because I didn't have to. My father beat the **** out of me. Put me in the hospital numerous times and there were a lot of times my mother couldn't take to the ER when I should have gone because he wouldn't let her.

    I know what child abuse is, and I know what child cruelty is. THIS AIN'T IT.

    My father also made me use a mortar hammer to clean thousands of bricks that were taken from the foundation of our house so they could be used again on the addition he was building. It was done to teach me a lesson in hard work, personal responsibility and taking pride in your work, no matter what it is or how menial it may be - and it worked - finally. Before I learned my lesson, I kept breaking the wooden handle so I could stop. He finally welded a metal handle on the thing so I couldn't break it. That wasn't child cruelty or abuse like the other actions he took against me... It was parenting.

    I know that I would not have gone quite as far as this guy did, but I can understand why he did, and it doesn't seem the kid was injured in any way, except for his poor little feelings and some tired and sore muscles.

    I don't understand how we as a society can complain about the young people not being responsible citizens or caring about much of anything when their parents are the ones that let them get away with anything and everything, yet we criminalize an act taken by a guy to try and teach his kid that there are consequences for not doing what you should do as a member of society and a responsible person that takes pride in your own accomplishments. This guy used military reinforcement, but not in the way that the term military makes it sound.

    I'm sure that he was tough on the kid - that was his choice and only he can decide what was needed for his child. I'm sure there are a lot of people that think he went overboard (I'm one of them in a way). But, there are also people that think that this type of parental discipline should be criminalized when there is no harm done to the child other than making him tired and those people are the ones that are doing harm to society as a whole for the sake of political correctness.

    That he did it over a three day period, to me, is like my father welding a metal handle to the mortar hammer - it took that to get me, and probably this kid to get the message.

    Get mad at me if you want, but I think that if more parents cared enough about their kids to do whatever it takes short of harming them to help them grow into responsible adults with tough but fair discipline and reinforcing that, we wouldn't have the problems we see in our schools or in the streets or young people that cannot qualify for a job or even want a job because they feel it's below them... or most of all... kids killing kids over tennis shoes, for example.

    Now - you can jump on me and tell me how stupid I am. I can take it.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    LMAO!! Sounds like basic training and ground combat school to me except that they left out the PT.
    What is 'ground combat school'?

    I did Advanced Infantry Training at Ft. Puke back in the day, we did crawl, walk, run to get into shape for the 12 mile road march under ruck. Course we weren't 16 either.

    While I never was sent to CCF, I did have a private go there... sounds far more like CCF than 'ground combat school'.

    Some others tell tales of what their Daddy did to them and think if the action doesn't rise to their abuse it isn't abuse. My dad (step dad) punched me a few times, once hard enough it knocked me out. I don't hold a grudge but I also don't think a parent should do that as it is abuse.

    my thought on dickhead dad... soldiers enlist for such treatment and without approval of an Officer this sort of 'remedial' training wouldn't be dealt out. There is a difference between a minor and an adult.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's great if the kid were an adult. But he wasn't.

    Hey I got an idea, I got gassed in Basic, let's go gas our children too, I mean, what's the harm right?
    Well, it does teach a person to make sure they have a good seal on their mask.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    That father went too far.

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