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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So I guess you would make a child that doesn't use an "indoor voice" go around screaming their head off as punishment.
    Not a bad idea. Telling them that they HAVE to scream as loud as they can until YOU say "Stop" would teach them to pay close attention to thier personal volume.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I noticed you left out this part:

    Sorry, but yes, that is child abuse.
    Absolutely agree. It boggles my mind how such cruelty is frequently disguised as "discipline." Some guys should never have been fathers in the first place. This guy is definitely one of them, and I hope he is convicted of the charges and given a long prison sentence.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    They were able to get him to do this, so obviously they can do more chores. Glad the police stepped in.
    Me too.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Sounds like the son was being lazy, yet again, and couldn't even complete the task he was given for not doing the tasks he was given. Clearly there is a pattern here with this kid.
    Ya, and that woman was just asking to be raped with the way she was dressed.

    (It's an analogy of kind not degree, before anyone accuses me of equating this with rape)

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    This isn't remotely the same thing.

    If your kid doesn't do their homework, and you punish them for it. (The punishment being subjective; talking to them, grounding, whatever)

    Then again, they don't do their homework. Do you give them the same punishment? Worse punishment?

    Then again, they don't do their homework, then what?

    How is that comparable to blaming a woman for what she was wearing when she was raped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Ya, and that woman was just asking to be raped with the way she was dressed.

    (It's an analogy of kind not degree, before anyone accuses me of equating this with rape)
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There are many punishments that can be done that don't involve physical punishments like this. Grounding, extra chores, etc.

    Luckily the police diagree with YOU.
    It's abusive and more than that it's LAZY. All a kid learns from this kind of thing us to fear, and probably eventually loathe, his/her father. It's one thing to say make them do yard work that involves raking leaves etc. , otherwise known as normal chores. It's completely another to treat them like a pack animal. I can't help but think the father's got some issues to work out here. Nice to see he's in counseling. I hope he gets something out of it.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Sounds like this kid had it easy.

    I grew up on a farm, I did more work before 6am than what this kid got as punishment. Then there was cutting firewood. We always got 5 cords cut, split, and stacked each year. The occasional ditch to be dug etc. and as if all that wasnt enough I worked for neighbors doing all that work that I hated at home so I would have money to party with, buy drums, guitars, amps, truck etc.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    This isn't remotely the same thing.

    If your kid doesn't do their homework, and you punish them for it. (The punishment being subjective; talking to them, grounding, whatever)

    Then again, they don't do their homework. Do you give them the same punishment? Worse punishment?

    Then again, they don't do their homework, then what?

    How is that comparable to blaming a woman for what she was wearing when she was raped?
    The comparison was with respect to your victim-blaming, not with respect to the act.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    There was no victim in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The comparison was with respect to your victim-blaming, not with respect to the act.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    There was no victim in this case.
    Yes there was.

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