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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Because studies have shown, removing kids from parents that actually discipline them and putting the state in charge of them, helps turn them into good little dependents of the state, and we want more sheep that rely on government.

    I'm sorry, but anyone that thinks making a kid move rocks or dig and fill ditches or (heaven forbid) walk is horrible and cruel, is part of the problem in this society. We aren't talking about beating the crap out of kids, just putting a level of discipline in them that (it certainly seems) has been missing for decades, and has helped lead to new generations of 'entitlement' and 'unaccountable' douchbags.

    The world is a cruel and unfair place and it doesn't give a crap about any one individual, and when people don't understand that, they fail. And yes, we have loads of young people coming up who are going to fail miserably because of the years of this silly 'everyone deserves a trophy' and 'you sit in time out' nonsense.
    This wasn't simply discipline. It was viewed as excessive, and therefore cruel, hence the charge. We have a constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishments. Parents have automatic authority over their children because children aren't legally able to fend for themselves.

    The father will either go in front of a judge or plea out. Doubt he will get much more than parenting classes, possibly a fine and/or probation. Won't likely come close to losing his kid due to this.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I haven't yet seen any indication the child was physically harmed by this. In fact, it sounds like what we used to do daily for fun on our own as kids (we used to build the most amazing forts).
    Sure it's fun when you're building something, but not if you have to move the stones and then move them right back. However, it is supposed to be punishment. And the kid got a good workout too.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It was viewed as excessive,
    And they were wrong, and everyone that thinks it was is wrong, and as I said, part of the problem.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Maybe so - but maybe the negative publicity will cause them to only monitor but not interfere and then quietly let it drop.


    Hopefully. but once CPS gets involved, it becomes a very tricky situation...

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This wasn't simply discipline. It was viewed as excessive, and therefore cruel, hence the charge. We have a constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishments. Parents have automatic authority over their children because children aren't legally able to fend for themselves.

    The father will either go in front of a judge or plea out. Doubt he will get much more than parenting classes, possibly a fine and/or probation. Won't likely come close to losing his kid due to this.


    You can't be sure of that..Children have been taken away from loving homes for a lot less...

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    And they were wrong, and everyone that thinks it was is wrong, and as I said, part of the problem.
    In your opinion, they were wrong. In my opinion, they weren't.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    You can't be sure of that..Children have been taken away from loving homes for a lot less...
    They have been. But I didn't say it couldn't happen, only that it won't likely happen. And if it does happen with this case (and we find out about it), then I will say it was wrong to do that and his, the father's punishment was too harsh.

    But it isn't very likely to happen. Not when talking about a 16 year old and that it was a simple issue of discipline being too harsh.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    In your opinion, they were wrong. In my opinion, they weren't.
    Well, welcome to the world of being wrong. Once government put's it's foot in the door, it destroy's families. I've seen it far too often.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Well, welcome to the world of being wrong. Once government put's it's foot in the door, it destroy's families. I've seen it far too often.
    And I've seen many people overreact to government "action" only because they don't like the government interfering in anything, even if it might just help someone.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And I've seen many people overreact to government "action" only because they do like the government interfering in anything, even if it might just help someone.
    But 'if we can save one child', it pays to ensure the government isn't involved. Isn't that the correct buzz words to use?
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