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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    In the news last night was a pair of kids found in an abandoned motorhome, toilet not working and overflowing with filth, no food for days and no water, kids scarred and flea-bitten, parents were out getting high. THAT is child cruelty. Making your kid do some physical activities because his life is going sedentary, not so much.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    There has been a lot of debate over this punishment of the "kid".

    It seems the kid was wasting his time with video games and refused to do anything else.

    The father was trying to teach his son a lesson.

    Now with that said, the punishment had to be so bad that the kid would never think of wanting to go through it again. That is the only way to get a teenager to do what needs to be done. Does a teenager really care if you take away his video games when he knows you will give them right back? Of course not.

    What do lazy people do in life? Nothing.

    The father was trying to help his son long term and I applaude him for it.

    I hope the "kid" was Smart enough to learn something from it, but I doubt it as the pólice charge validated his thought that is was unwarranted and it can never happen again, so it was a waste of time and energy.
    don't you think the father should be mentoring his son instead of this kind of physical punishment?
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    The only thing that bothers me is that he was woken up at 3am to do this. This is not acceptable at all. A growing child/teen needs his sleep for many various documented reasons. Unless he went to bed at 8pm, this is not an appropriate time to get a kid out of bed. The rest of the punishment, I have zero problems with. A teen boy, even a small one, is generally healthy enough to hike a few miles a day and carry a few pounds around. I mean seriously, 23 lbs? That's nothing.
    I don't think a few nights with 3 am wakings is going to harm his development.

    As for the punishment itself, I don't see anything criminal. Its harsh and may or not have been called for. I would assume/hope this was for a chronic problem where other more traditional methods of discipline had failed. Its possible it could be for a first time infraction (the article doesn't seem to say one way or another) in which case the dad is an overreacting jerk, but still not abusive. At least in this instance.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    don't you think the father should be mentoring his son instead of this kind of physical punishment?
    What do you mean by mentoring him?

    You mean like be his friend instead of making him a productive human being?

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    would that be physical punishment or taking away activities your children liked to do?
    i'm 50 years old and i got spanked on the rare occasion as a kid(not as a 16 year old) for misbahaving.

    Both. Depended on the infraction.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What do you mean by mentoring him?

    You mean like be his friend instead of making him a productive human being?
    helping his son do the things he expects of him. it appears his son is on his own with NO help from his father.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    In the news last night was a pair of kids found in an abandoned motorhome, toilet not working and overflowing with filth, no food for days and no water, kids scarred and flea-bitten, parents were out getting high. THAT is child cruelty. Making your kid do some physical activities because his life is going sedentary, not so much.
    Yup. That's why I said that cruelty should be reserved for real cruelty, which is exactly what you described.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    helping his son do the things he expects of him. it appears his son is on his own with NO help from his father.

    The Value of Mentoring | MENTOR
    Do you have any children?

    What do you do when a 16 year old refuses to take care of his responsibilities? Talking to him doesn't work. Being his friend is a récipe for disaster.

    What would you suggest?

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Both. Depended on the infraction.
    this son is 16 years old. physical punishment like this looses its value at that age. something was going wrong for a long time before this happened and we don't have that part of the story.

    how old are your children if i may ask?
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    this son is 16 years old. physical punishment like this looses its value at that age. something was going wrong for a long time before this happened and we don't have that part of the story.

    how old are your children if i may ask?
    14, 16 & 17.

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