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Thread: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I didnt dodge anything. You're speculating out your ass, at least I gave specifics...which you asked for. Yes, he's the ONLY 4'2" 16 yr old male and he was completely out of shape and in great danger. Speculate away However since he did it multiple times without harming himself at all...it seems like reality is on my side. The proof is in the condition of the kid.
    Not speculating abit, you dodged answering the question about asking a friend to borrow their 4'2" child and force them to hug carry a landscape block for 3 miles.

    You try and use a backpack carry as the same as a hug carry- pure BS.

    Again the standard isn't 'great danger' you are being willfully ignorant... cruelty doesn't mean permanent damage, you can be very abusive and leave little if any marks...

    But like I said, you try hug carrying the equiv of your body weight the boy did, you try and get a friend to loan you a 4'2" kid to see just how 'harmless' hug carrying a big rock is...

    That is the dodge, you know what that parent would say.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It was a bit excessive maybe, but I'm not seeing how it qualifies as "abuse."

    23 lbs is nothing weight wise, and three miles is a walk in the park (assuming you're not being forced to run it).
    Yes - it seems that some people don't know what abuse really can look like.

    Locking children in cages.
    Whipping them and beating them so they're injured and bleeding.
    Depriving them of necessities like food and water so they suffer from it.

    - That's abuse.

    Further, I fail to see how jailtime for dad (what some are advocating) is going to teach this kid anything. Gesus: a lot of teens don't even have two parents. This one did and because of the child's behavior the father chose an untraditional form of punishment. And some want the father locked away? That makes no sense - then that will only encourage the child's behavior and discourage the parents from handling him.

    It's sort of damned if you do and damned if you don't. Nothing is good enough - and people wonder why kids are worse and worse these days.

    I'm not sure what the final decision is from the state - but usually minor allegations of child abuse are countered with parenting classes, not jail time for the parent.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, that's not racist.
    What's racist about acknowledging a serious problem affecting the black community?

    For the life of me I just don't understand American hangups on race.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    to those that answered, This was fine and acceptable, in the poll, how many of you have children? would you use this as a form punishment for you child?

    i'll take a bet, NOT one you!!
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    In my county the police would be dropping the charges with in day, that is if they were that stupid enough to arrest the man in the first place. If it EVER got to trial, the jury would toss it so fast it would make the stupid prosecutors head spin. We have dumb prosecutors but I doubt they are this dumb. This all presumes the judge doesn't toss it themselves.

    Your right I do have an emotional attachment. This is a bull**** charge though and through. This family is now being tortured by CPS and the judicial system. That's cruel and unusual punishment, for a nonexistent crime.
    The fact is, that the arrest for child abuse will always be on this mans record and it will follow him for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    to those that answered, This was fine and acceptable, in the poll, how many of you have children? would you use this as a form punishment for you child?

    i'll take a bet, NOT one you!!
    I have 3. Would I make my kid carry a stone in the middle of the night? Probably not. Have I "punished" my kids? Yes. Have I handed out punishments that others would consider "cruel"? No doubt. Are my kids all alive and well today? Yep.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's great if the kid were an adult. But he wasn't.

    Hey I got an idea, I got gassed in Basic, let's go gas our children too, I mean, what's the harm right?
    You think 16 years old is too early to teach responsibility?

    Before you say younever said that, your comment was he was a kid and not an adult.

    16 years old is hardly a kid.

    Was there any permanent damage to this "kid" from this?

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    I do not like disciplining children with military methods. I prefer modeling police methods such as locking them on the room mimics being locked in the jail. Should they continue breaking laws, be it home or societal, they get the same treatment.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    There has been a lot of debate over this punishment of the "kid".

    It seems the kid was wasting his time with video games and refused to do anything else.

    The father was trying to teach his son a lesson.

    Now with that said, the punishment had to be so bad that the kid would never think of wanting to go through it again. That is the only way to get a teenager to do what needs to be done. Does a teenager really care if you take away his video games when he knows you will give them right back? Of course not.

    What do lazy people do in life? Nothing.

    The father was trying to help his son long term and I applaude him for it.

    I hope the "kid" was Smart enough to learn something from it, but I doubt it as the pólice charge validated his thought that is was unwarranted and it can never happen again, so it was a waste of time and energy.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I have 3. Would I make my kid carry a stone in the middle of the night? Probably not. Have I "punished" my kids? Yes. Have I handed out punishments that others would consider "cruel"? No doubt. Are my kids all alive and well today? Yep.
    would that be physical punishment or taking away activities your children liked to do?

    i'm 50 years old and i got spanked on the rare occasion as a kid(not as a 16 year old) for misbahaving.
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