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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More dodge, imagine that... how much water? How much food, cast iron pot or one of those thin pressed aluminum ones? Again the boy in the article didn't get a ruck but had to hug carry the rock. Did you hug carry your load while camping?

    Again you dodge the borrow a kid and have them hug carry that stone. Imagine that.

    16 year old boys come in all shapes and sizes, but what 16 year old is already playing college sports? I missed what football team has a 16 year old on the roster.

    And I really missed the part where those 16 year olds were 4'2".

    Did find a 6'3" 220 pound kid going to the minors with a season ending pulled hamstring in 2011. But he was 18 when he broke into the Bigs.

    30 lashes is punishment as well, the question is proper punishment for a MINOR 4'2" child....
    I didnt dodge anything. You're speculating out your ass, at least I gave specifics...which you asked for.

    Yes, he's the ONLY 4'2" 16 yr old male and he was completely out of shape and in great danger. Speculate away

    However since he did it multiple times without harming himself at all...it seems like reality is on my side.

    The proof is in the condition of the kid.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    He was perfectly healthy for his size then. Still plenty able to carry 23 lbs for an hr. And so would a woman/girl be.

    No one said it was a SUnday stroll. And an hour without water (3 miles per hr at a walk) in normal temps....he's fine.

    This is just ridiculous.
    He was not healthy for his size at all. Being overweight by 60lbs is not healthy, at all.

    More than an hour without water, while walking carrying a 23lb weight in hot weather means needing more water. Plus he was doing extra exercise before and/or after.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Dont tell me what 'I was.' And I was not in above average shape.

    And now you are talking about things you have no knowlege of. HOme Depot didnt even require me to wear one of those back brace things. And yes, the big landscaping blocks weight 60 lbs each. YOu can find this out easily on your own.

    It wasnt over 85 degrees, some of it was even night time.


    This kid could have been out on a day hike with his folks, exactly the same circumstances/weight carried, and no one would blink an eye. 16 year olds have jobs, they drive cars, they do anything they possibly can without their parents...he did not need supervision and he was not in any danger.

    The drama and speculation is just silly.
    I checked the weather conditions for the area for this past weekend, it was a high of 87 degrees, and highs are normally reached during the middle of the day, and the low during the day was around 75 degrees. When he was noticed by the pizza delivery driver (who generally don't come out til around noon, at the earliest), it was day time (the night one was done with his father). The driver saw him twice, and said he looked sweaty and tired.

    My brother, who is young and in pretty good shape was tired out hiking about the same amount that you said you did with an over 20lb pack on. The average person would have trouble hiking that distance (particularly if it was uphill) without that size pack on, at least a person of average fitness here in the US.

    Day hikes with your folks generally do not include carrying a 23lb rock, would not be alone on a road, would include water or at least the resources to get some, and most importantly, they would be done voluntarily and the parents would actually be showing they cared by being there with him.

    What he needed was not to be doing that punishment.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And btw, these women are often nowhere near decent shape and often in heels. No water (lattes probably) and in all weather.

    And 23 lbs in not 'a load.' For a normal 16 yr old boy....I dont care how short he was, he wasnt an invalid. It wouldnt slow anyone down much.
    23lbs is a load. He was not a normal 16 year old boy. Just because he wasn't an invalid doesn't mean that it is healthy for him to be doing that much exercise/work at a time, without any known source of water.

    What women? Those walking around that you claim do it during their lunch break. I highly doubt you can make 3 miles in heels on an hour lunch break. Not unless you are in some amazing shape to begin with.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Poor kid. People are discussing him like being short is a defect.
    That's what I'm getting too. Amazing isn't it?

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    This is not a normal discipline technique because we would see 16 year old teens carrying stones all the time. I am positive anyone claiming that this from of discipline is "OK" would ever do the same...Zero.

    If you recieved similar type of discipline as a child...Is this the type of disipline you employ with your children now? Most people that had rough discipline don't do the same as their parents. My best friend recieved the electrical cord form of discipline. I can never remember him using corporal punishment on his kids...his kids were well behaved.

    My father could be a hard ass at times[because his father was]...and if he got close to that messed up line, mom would bring things to an end. No one crossed my mother. No one f-ed with her kids.


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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I didnt dodge anything. You're speculating out your ass, at least I gave specifics...which you asked for.

    Yes, he's the ONLY 4'2" 16 yr old male and he was completely out of shape and in great danger. Speculate away

    However since he did it multiple times without harming himself at all...it seems like reality is on my side.

    The proof is in the condition of the kid.
    Just because nothing did happen to the kid, doesn't mean he wasn't in danger from things happening due to that punishment. That logic is completely horrible.

    We really don't know the condition of the kid, but it was obviously enough for the police to intervene.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    That punishment was inappropriate and ruthless. Your son is not at boot camp. If my Father had dropped me off with the big rock, I'd have left it there and gone the other way. Couch surfing would be a better life than growing up under the DI Dad.

    I'm glad that the Police stepped in. The charges will probably be dropped, but what better way to pay back the Dad is there than having him be arrested.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    this has got to be one messed up father.

    a 16 year old male who is only 4'2" kind of makes you wonder whether dad has been withholding food as punishment too.

    this kind of physical punishment has NO place in any home from any parent.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    I cant believe how many people think the punishment is just. Imagine walking down the street and seeing children carrying rocks for miles back and forth. It's disgusting and cruel. Period point blank. Any parent who would imply such draconian punishment on their child should have their child taken from them. There are productive and effective ways to correct bad behavior. Communication is the biggest one. The easy way out is to think up mean and unorthodox punishments that simultaneously over exert and humiliate your child.
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