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Thread: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Lame. Really lame. If your going to bait, flame or troll you could at least be creative about it.
    It was a succinct illustration of the thread subject and your ignoring the subject in attempt to apologize for child abuse.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You have at best a hung jury here. Most likely an acquittal. Because just looking at the comments here I doubt highly a jury would convict. Because it seems most don't agree with this being cruel punishment.
    I think it would depend on a lot of things. Plus there would be more information to come out here. And it is possible that he could choose to simply make a deal.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There are less excessive/cruel punishments that would more likely work and not put him in danger of potential health issues such as heat exhaustion/stroke, muscle strains/sprains, or many other things that are potentials depending on more information about the actual conditions.
    You dont know that and you dont know what discipline has been used previously. You also dont know what physical shape the 16 yr old is in. I gave an example in my 2nd post.

    Everyone is different. Just like there are different learning styles, there are different methods that work with different personalities.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It was a succinct illustration of the thread subject and your ignoring the subject in attempt to apologize for child abuse.
    Aren't very creative or literate are you? Come on at least try to be creative. Otherwise you look like a lazy slothful troll. If your gona bait, put some real bait out. Really, the lack of effort lack of effort is just..... lame.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I think it would depend on a lot of things. Plus there would be more information to come out here. And it is possible that he could choose to simply make a deal.
    I hope the man doesn't make a deal and stands his ground.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

    Here's another, more detailed article:

    UPDATE: Father's discipline
    "I got to work and saw him there and I asked if he was alright," Burnete said. "I know now he was 16, but he is a little guy, I thought he must be about 9 or 10 at the most. He was sweating, dirty and was obviously tired. He asked if I could give him a ride so I checked with my boss and he said it was OK. He picked up this massive brick and asked if he could put in in the truck.

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    Burnette said that a few hours later with temperatures near 90, he saw the boy again along Kings Highway. That's when he said he knew something wasn't right. After quizzing the boy, he found out it was punishment and that he had to do the walk with the brick in two hours or less or he would have to do it all over again.
    There is dash cam footage of the boy and his father at 2:00 a.m on Sunday. The police were concerned because the boy is very small, carrying a heavy rock, walking more than three miles, sometimes in the heat of the day and on often very busy roads, putting him at potential risk in several ways. He made the trip once on Friday, twice on Saturday and once on Sunday.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Aren't very creative or literate are you? Come on at least try to be creative. Otherwise you look like a lazy slothful troll. If your gona bait, put some real bait out. Really, the lack of effort lack of effort is just..... lame.
    This is the best you can do to defend your apologizing for child abuse?

    Why are you so angry with my assessment of your position? If there is no validity to my position, it shouldn't bother you.

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It was actually called Air Base Ground Defense school but I figured that most folks wouldn't know what ABGD stood for.
    So you was a rock humper in the AF???? I can believe a lot of things about Zoomies but not humping rocks in rucks as any part of their training, but do tell....

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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment [W:59]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is the best you can do to defend your apologizing for child abuse?

    Why are you so angry with my assessment of your position? If there is no validity to my position, it shouldn't bother you.
    Your not very good at baiting. Another lame attempt. Well keep at it Forest, maybe you will get it right eventually.
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    Re: Father faces child cruelty charges for teen's punishment..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You dont know that and you dont know what discipline has been used previously. You also dont know what physical shape the 16 yr old is in. I gave an example in my 2nd post.

    Everyone is different. Just like there are different learning styles, there are different methods that work with different personalities.
    I do know that this boy (according to the news report) was much smaller than the example you gave. 4 foot 2 inches tall is the size of an 8 or 9 year old. If the kid weighed over 100 pounds at that height, he would be considered fat/obese.

    Everyone does have different personalities, but that doesn't change how excessive this punishment is given the information we have. The father didn't say the kid was being punished for being mouthy or abusive or getting into trouble at school/in the neighborhood or other things that could lead a person to believe the kid was troublemaker. No, the reason given was for watching too many videos (there is no reason this could not have been dealt with by taking away all access to electronics in the house), not doing homework (generally involves parents actually getting involved, I still don't understand how a parent could get a child to do that much manual labor but not stand there over the kid's shoulder while he did his homework, which likely wasn't even attempted), and not doing chores (so give more chores or heighten the expectations). Even if the things I gave were tried (one of them, unless the kid is really good at hacking, can be easily done), this punishment would still be excessive, in my opinion. And it is pointless.

    And it could cause physical issues. Do you think it isn't warm/hot in Georgia in May? I'm seeing about 75-87 F for this past weekend (which is when it sounds like this happened). If the exercise is something the kid is not accustomed to, the level could easily cause issue with muscle strains/sprains, especially given the amount of weight the teen was carrying for the average amount of time (it would take about an hour, maybe a little more to walk three miles carrying weight).

    Obviously we need more information here, but what we have is enough for me to say right now that I find it excessive and even cruel. (I find it cruel for any child/teen to be punished with pointless activities. It seems to be done more for some morbid satisfaction of the punisher or just plain laziness rather than actually being used to help the kid, teach the kid.
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