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Thread: Dropping out of school

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Pointing to outliers doesn't change the reality. What percentage of the whole of high school dropouts do those 5 represent?
    I don't know. Look it up and get back to me with the stats.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I don't know. Look it up and get back to me with the stats.
    You're the one that made the claim so I'll leave it to you.
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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Only two of the five dropped out of high school. The others were college dropouts. The two that dropped out are not American.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I often joke about what I have in common with Bill Gates.

    He and I are both from Seattle and neither one of us graduated from Harvard. He dropped out and I was never invited.

    Seriously though. He and Paul Allen both attend Lakeside. An exclusive private k12 school in Seattle with tuition now at 28k a year. I'd venture to say his education there and two years at Harvard are easily equal to most college educations.
    I'm of the belief that if a person drops out of school, they can still be successful, not like Bernie Madoff, but a real success. If a person has the drive and ambition to earn more money to purchase life's necessities, why not?

    I have heard on MSM that many college educated people are out of work.

    Back in the mid 80's, my cousin had a degree for teaching, he worked flipping burgers, washing cars, and doing odd jobs, living with mom & pop, til he was finally offered a teaching job, 5 years of that BS.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Only two of the five dropped out of high school. The others were college dropouts. The two that dropped out are not American.
    Okay. I dislike the idea of forcing a child to do anything. How about using influence instead of force.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're the one that made the claim so I'll leave it to you.
    What claim, all I did was post a link. That's the problem with cons, they're always trying to ram **** down people's throats and putting words in other people's mouths.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Why did you choose to earn two "worthless" degrees?
    Well I either want to be a professor or look into law so they have worth there
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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Okay. I dislike the idea of forcing a child to do anything. How about using influence instead of force.
    We do that now in America. And if you dislike forcing a child to do anything, it would be a good idea if you steered clear of having children.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    I understand the ideals behind making kids stay in school, but the practical reality is that the education system is a one-size-fits-all learning style that doesn't work for a lot of people. It didn't work for me. I left high school when I was 16, worked for a bit, then did correspondence later. There are also adult education centers for picking up high school later. If there's some other kind of personal development that needs to happen outside of school, then I'm all for it. There are plenty of people with a creative vision that takes them away from school and into their own ventures. You don't need a high school diploma to start a business, and if your ideas are original then you'll get ahead.

    Plus, look at how abysmal the education system has become. Up to 15% of children are now medicated in order to force them to fit into the outdated model. The rest are being bullied, have teachers that don't give a crap, standardized learning that takes all creativity and critical thinking out of the process, constant class disruptions and huge class sizes, some have people shooting up schools in their state, etc... school was a torture chamber for me, a prison. My mind needed to be free, not dulled by idiotic mundane children with insecurity issues. Taking children out of school and giving them a better learning experience is a BLESSING at this point.

    We should not be forcing adolescents to conform to our useless standard of learning. And yes, it is quite useless... most of the crap we learn in school has no relevance to living life. If I had my time back I would have dropped out and taken courses on business and finance, something that, for some reason, children are taught zilch about in high school.

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    Re: Dropping out of school

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We do that now in America. And if you dislike forcing a child to do anything, it would be a good idea if you steered clear of having children.
    Oh well clowny, see my age, view my profile? My offspring attended school, and completed 12th. grade too. so there.

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