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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The only real complaint I have of Roberts is that he didn't try to pin down the Democrats on whether the punishment for not buying insurance is a tax or a fine...considering they identified it as both at various times. He allowed them to stick with it as a tax in the end and that's what screwed the people.
    In my opinion, the Obama administration had some embarrassing info on Roberts and threatened to publish it. According to other judges on the bench, Roberts started out as against the ACA.

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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    In my opinion, the Obama administration had some embarrassing info on Roberts and threatened to publish it. According to other judges on the bench, Roberts started out as against the ACA.
    Embarrassing info are not grounds for impeachment, trial, conviction and removal from the bench. If the Obama adminstration has embarrasing info on Roberts that only means that others do as well.

    Your conspiracy is lame leaning toward ridiculous.


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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Embarrassing info are not grounds for impeachment, trial, conviction and removal from the bench. If the Obama adminstration has embarrasing info on Roberts that only means that others do as well.

    Your conspiracy is lame leaning toward ridiculous.
    Get a grip, sport. I merely posted my opinion. I did not and I am not calling for Robert's impeachment. The incompetent twit in the white house would then get to name his replacement.

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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Get a grip, sport. I merely posted my opinion. I did not and I am not calling for Robert's impeachment. The incompetent twit in the white house would then get to name his replacement.
    Your 'opinion' is up for scrutiny as well as any other post.

    Again..embarrassing info are not grounds for impeachment. Your fantastic machinations still needs to be rooted in some semblance of reality.


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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I would assume since you are indicating you have answers....that you actually had something in mind. BOth you and I know the devil is in the details and you haven't even produced a semblance of a framework, let alone details.
    Are you still harping on that? Forget it. Start a thread about it. Maybe you'll get someone else to talk about the Republicans. In this thread, you should be talking about Obamacare.
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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    So what you are suggesting is that "something is better then nothing...even if that something is worse then what already existed".
    No. I'm saying that Obamacare is a better alternative than doing nothing. I don't believe it's worse than what already existed. A single payer system would be much better, but it'll be a long time before we get there.
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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Are you still harping on that? Forget it. Start a thread about it. Maybe you'll get someone else to talk about the Republicans. In this thread, you should be talking about Obamacare.
    Sorry, you put stuff out there as if it is fact and do not expect to be called on it?

    It was important enough to you to put out there. And you are having issues with being called on it.

    Face the reality. Even those who you think are "proObamacare" really WANT better answers. I was hoping you had some.

    But I get it, you had nothing to begin with and are backing off. But you can start another thread if you have better answers than ACA - I want better answers.

    But for now ACA is what have .

    And my post has everything to do with the OP - they asked if I supported Obamacare. I voted other. It is what we have (a foot in the door) until something better comes along. I am hoping for something better.
    Last edited by year2late; 06-01-14 at 12:54 PM.

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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    other - it's better than we had, at least in states with medicaid expansion, but also the "preexisting condition" crap, but what i really support is single payer
    Define better.

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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Your 'opinion' is up for scrutiny as well as any other post.

    Again..embarrassing info are not grounds for impeachment. Your fantastic machinations still needs to be rooted in some semblance of reality.
    I never suggested that embarrassing info is grounds for impeachment. I did suggest the possibility that embarrassing info could have influenced Justice Roberts decision to do a 180 turnaround and support obamacare. I don't see any other possible motive for his sudden reversal.

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    Re: Do you support Obamacare ?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No. I'm saying that Obamacare is a better alternative than doing nothing. I don't believe it's worse than what already existed. A single payer system would be much better, but it'll be a long time before we get there.
    The truth is that while Obamacare helps a relatively few, in the long run it is worse then doing nothing. The only people who were really helped were those who qualified for subsidies. Everyone else other then the very wealthy who can afford Cadillac policies, are getting an inferior policy with high premiums and a very high deductible that makes health insurance meaningless as anything other then a catastrophic policy. Healthcare reforms were certainly needed, however obamacare is not the answer. Leaving it the insurance market alone would have been less damaging. And we have not seen the worst of it yet. When the employer mandate hits....all hell is going to break loose.

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