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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Prepare how, exactly? How would "preparation for climate change" differ from preparation for any other conflict?
    What they want is to force the DOD to start actually producing research on "how to operate in a climate change world". THEN they are going to use those same documents as ipso facto proof that climate change is real, and is a threat, because the Pentagon is trying to figure out how to protect us from it!, oh I'm getting the vapors.......

    I can only imagine what the actual senior staffers in the Pentagon think of that playbook.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Yep, the US military should consider that they might need some extra tropical uniforms. Not many though the effects are expected to be very slight.
    Probably ought to lay in a few pair of gloves too. Just in case the present trend keeps going.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Like I told you before 97% believe that global change is real and that it is caused by man; I do not believe that report came from one of those 97 percenters.
    Scientific breakthroughs come from the dissenters more often than not. Most people thought the world was flat until that Columbus guy didn't fall off the edge.

    Most people thought that the flora and fauna hadn't changed since the beginning until Darwin actually went and took a look.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Perhaps the sense is that we cant really afford $160.00 per gallon for 'green' jet fuel and similar exorbitant purchases with limited returns.
    Are you under the impression that this is the cost it will always be?
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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Absolutely they should.


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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are you under the impression that this is the cost it will always be?
    Depends on who is selling the fuel to the government and what their campaign contribution history is.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What they want is to force the DOD to start actually producing research on "how to operate in a climate change world". THEN they are going to use those same documents as ipso facto proof that climate change is real, and is a threat, because the Pentagon is trying to figure out how to protect us from it!, oh I'm getting the vapors.......

    I can only imagine what the actual senior staffers in the Pentagon think of that playbook.
    You don't need to imagine because back in 2007 senior military advisors determined that climate change is a real and growing threat to national security.


    Testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives' Select Committee On Energy Independence and Global Warming | CNA Corporation


    http://www.c2es.org/science-impacts/...-board-summary


    The purpose of the Military Advisory Board’s study was to examine the national security consequences of climate change. A dozen of the nation’s most respected retired admirals and generals served as a Military Advisory Board to study how climate change could affect our nation’s security over the next 30 to 40 years—the timeframe for developing new military capabilities.

    The specific questions addressed were:

    ##What conditions are climate changes likely to produce around the world that would represent security risks to the United States?
    ##What are the ways in which these conditions may affect America’s national security interests?
    ##What actions should the nation take to address the national security consequences of climate change?

    FINDINGS:
    ##Projected climate change poses a serious threat to America’s national security.
    ##Climate change acts as a threat multiplier for instability in some of the most volatile regions of the world.
    ##Climate change, national security, and energy dependence are a related set of global challenges.

    RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MILITARY ADVISORY BOARD:

    1.The national security consequences of climate change should be fully integrated into national security and national defense strategies. The intelligence community should incorporate climate consequences into its National Intelligence Estimate.
    2.The U.S. should commit to a stronger national and international roleto help stabilize climate change at levels that will avoid significant disruption to global security and stability.
    3.The U.S. should commit to global partnerships that help less developed nations build the capacity and resiliency to better manage climate impacts.
    4.The Department of Defense should enhance its operational capability by accelerating the adoption of improved business processes and innovative technologies that result in improved U.S. combat power through energy efficiency.
    5.The Department of Defense should conduct an assessment of the impact on U.S. military installations worldwide of rising sea levels, extreme weather events, and other projected climate change impacts over the next 30 to 40 years.
    National Security and the Threat of Climate Change: Military Advisory Board Findings | Center for Climate and Energy Solutions

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You don't need to imagine because back in 2007 senior military advisors determined that climate change is a real and growing threat to national security.
    Really? Gosh. Why don't you look up why they came out with that study?

    Hint: it has something to do with the changes in Congress after the 2006 election, and the post you just responded to.

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    The U.S. military is the most adaptable on the planet, and also has the most powerful navy by a long shot. If anything, Global Warming would enhance our relative power, not degrade it. AGW (assuming it's nature) enhances US Hegemony, it doesn't detract from it.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I think we need proof climate change is even real....

    I mean Al gore said that by now the ice caps would be gone, and lo and behold they are larger now then when he made that comment.

    Climate change is a hoax
    We have proof. We have literally 99.9% of all accredited geologists, meteorologists, chemists, physicists and biologists saying so.

    In the 'against' column, we have moronic bigots who don't want to stop driving their SUVs.

    There is ZERO evidence against climate change.

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