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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

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    Why can't they just attack it like they do everything else?
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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Yes, and they have been doing so for a while now. Also, regardless of what the religiously obsessed/business co-opted Republicans in the House say or "order", the U.S. military will follow the orders given to them by the President & Secretary of Defense.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    NO, of course not.
    But our military must prepare for the 21st century....a peace force in its place....
    And global climate change has nothing to do with our antiquated military.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I think we need proof climate change is even real....

    I mean Al gore said that by now the ice caps would be gone, and lo and behold they are larger now then when he made that comment.

    Climate change is a hoax
    No he didn't, and no they aren't.

    Now, before some right-wing whackos start crowing about worshiping at the church of Gore, let me be clear. Al Gore is not a scientist. He is not a person you should listen to on a scientific subject. He's a spokesman, and a politician. And he deceived you about ice melting. But let's at least be accurate about it.

    Al Gore deceived you by specifically leaving out a timeframe. "If" the greenland ice caps melted, we'd see a sea level rise of ___. That's true. What he didn't mention is that at current rates, this would take centuries. Not exactly a lie, but it's certainly deceptive.

    Finally, the "ice caps are growing!" rhetoric tends to stem from a single-year uptick in arctic ice extent. As far as climate science goes, that's about as stupid as saying "well, it rained more today than yesterday, so the world must be getting wetter." A one-year change is not indicative of a trend, particularly when that one-year change is just a slight recovery from the lowest point recorded in a 30 year downward trend.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, the military, and the country in general should be preparing for the effects of climate change. Even if you believe that it's occurring naturally, rather than caused by us, the effects will be the same, and we need to be prepared to cope with them.
    Yep, the US military should consider that they might need some extra tropical uniforms. Not many though the effects are expected to be very slight.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Yep, the US military should consider that they might need some extra tropical uniforms. Not many though the effects are expected to be very slight.
    Then you need to educate yourself further on the issue. I don't expect the effects to be as apocalyptic as some people make them out to be, but they're going to be a bit worse than "slightly warmer temperatures".
    If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.

    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Then you need to educate yourself further on the issue. I don't expect the effects to be as apocalyptic as some people make them out to be, but they're going to be a bit worse than "slightly warmer temperatures".
    Oh, yeah, a sea level rise less than you will notice by 2050... (6 inches?).

    What do you think is going to happen?

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No he didn't, and no they aren't.

    Now, before some right-wing whackos start crowing about worshiping at the church of Gore, let me be clear. Al Gore is not a scientist. He is not a person you should listen to on a scientific subject. He's a spokesman, and a politician. And he deceived you about ice melting. But let's at least be accurate about it.

    Al Gore deceived you by specifically leaving out a timeframe. "If" the greenland ice caps melted, we'd see a sea level rise of ___. That's true. What he didn't mention is that at current rates, this would take centuries. Not exactly a lie, but it's certainly deceptive.

    Finally, the "ice caps are growing!" rhetoric tends to stem from a single-year uptick in arctic ice extent. As far as climate science goes, that's about as stupid as saying "well, it rained more today than yesterday, so the world must be getting wetter." A one-year change is not indicative of a trend, particularly when that one-year change is just a slight recovery from the lowest point recorded in a 30 year downward trend.

    Nice graph.

    It shows that the sea ice (who cares about that?) has reduced in the Arctic by about 30% since 1978. But it does it dramatically!!!! Start the graph at 3 why don't you?

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No he didn't, and no they aren't.

    Now, before some right-wing whackos start crowing about worshiping at the church of Gore, let me be clear. Al Gore is not a scientist. He is not a person you should listen to on a scientific subject. He's a spokesman, and a politician. And he deceived you about ice melting. But let's at least be accurate about it.

    Al Gore deceived you by specifically leaving out a timeframe. "If" the greenland ice caps melted, we'd see a sea level rise of ___. That's true. What he didn't mention is that at current rates, this would take centuries. Not exactly a lie, but it's certainly deceptive.

    Finally, the "ice caps are growing!" rhetoric tends to stem from a single-year uptick in arctic ice extent. As far as climate science goes, that's about as stupid as saying "well, it rained more today than yesterday, so the world must be getting wetter." A one-year change is not indicative of a trend, particularly when that one-year change is just a slight recovery from the lowest point recorded in a 30 year downward trend.

    Here is gore saying by 2013 the ice caps will be gone heck its a video so you claiming he did not might be incorrect.

    Al Gore: North Polar Ice Cap 'Completely Disappear' by 2013 | Conservative Angle

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    Re: Should the US military prepare for climate change?

    Still ice on Lake Superior – never before seen to this extent in the satellite era

    Well its looking like the ice caps are not melting just migrating to places like lake Superior. Check out how much ICE is STILL in lake superior.


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