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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Because it requires very little maintenance, receives donations from visitors and organizations, and it has volunteers who mostly care for it and assist visitors?
    I'm on the fence about that. I still believe it's disrespectful to the deceased and their families.

    I don't buy burgers and milk shakes or stuffed toys at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery when I visit my parents grave site to pay my respects.

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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Auschwitz museum sells memorabilia, which is kind of creepy....but the $ go for the concept of "lest we forget" and battling holocaust deniers etc. I'm OK with that. When I was there the locals said the museum and state run site were well financed by voluntary visitor donations. However, that was in the late 80's
    Why is it creepy, these places have to pay their own way. How else do you suggest they make money to pay their bills?
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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I'm on the fence about that. I still believe it's disrespectful to the deceased and their families.

    I don't buy burgers and milk shakes or stuffed toys at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery when I visit my parents grave site to pay my respects.
    I let my family know that if I am ever lost in such a situation, or in a giant mud slide like just happened near here, that life should go on all around. No shrine, no making the grounds 'hallowed' and off limits. Let it go back to nature, let people build on it, whatever. I'm not there, it's just empty remains.

    At the mud slide site, some people now dont want the highway rebuilt because there may be remains of people there (only one has not been recovered but there are still plenty of 'remains' in there.) If it was 'me' in that mud, or my family, I'd say plow thru it and go on. There are people on the other side of that slide that have to an extra 80 miles out of their way to get to work now. Businesses that are struggling. Etc. (Actually they have opened up a road now but it's only available for locals and one way so they need to go thru with escorts.)

    You dont force people to 'remember' or solemnize or respect a place or event. (Not that you suggested that)
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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I let my family know that if I am ever lost in such a situation, or in a giant mud slide like just happened near here, that life should go on all around. No shrine, no making the grounds 'hallowed' and off limits. Let it go back to nature, let people build on it, whatever. I'm not there, it's just empty remains.

    At the mud slide site, some people now dont want the highway rebuilt because there may be remains of people there (only one has not been recovered but there are still plenty of 'remains' in there.) If it was 'me' in that mud, or my family, I'd say plow thru it and go on. There are people on the other side of that slide that have to an extra 80 miles out of their way to get to work now. Businesses that are struggling. Etc. (Actually they have opened up a road now but it's only available for locals and one way so they need to go thru with escorts.)

    You dont force people to 'remember' or solemnize or respect a place or event. (Not that you suggested that)
    I'm soo sorry. I've always shown respect for the deceased, it's just me I guess. Selling stuff at a memorial just seems kind of creepy to me.

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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I'm soo sorry. I've always shown respect for the deceased, it's just me I guess. Selling stuff at a memorial just seems kind of creepy to me.
    Why? Is selling stuff in a museum creepy? They typically have dead bodies hanging around too.
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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why? Is selling stuff in a museum creepy? They typically have dead bodies hanging around too.
    As far as I'm concerned, the 9/11 memorial museum is hallowed ground, people died there, and are still possibly buried there, in the ground, in small pieces or hauled away in truckloads of materials. Not all of the 9/11 victims from the twin towers were accounted for, even though sifting through debris could not find or identify all the victims lost.

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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, the 9/11 memorial museum is hallowed ground, people died there, and are still possibly buried there, in the ground, in small pieces or hauled away in truckloads of materials. Not all of the 9/11 victims from the twin towers were accounted for, even though sifting through debris could not find or identify all the victims lost.
    So what? It's not hallowed ground, that's absurd. It's a place where an attack took place. People need to grow up and get over it.
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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So what? It's not hallowed ground, that's absurd. It's a place where an attack took place. People need to grow up and get over it.
    That sounds grossly insensitive, I'm finished with you. You and some others make it sound like the memorial is a playground, it is not.

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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, the 9/11 memorial museum is hallowed ground, people died there, and are still possibly buried there, in the ground, in small pieces or hauled away in truckloads of materials. Not all of the 9/11 victims from the twin towers were accounted for, even though sifting through debris could not find or identify all the victims lost.
    In all likelihood, given the shear number of people who have lived on this planet, it is almost certain that most places have had someone die there, including many museums with gift shops.
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    Re: Should the 9/11 Museum Sell Gifts?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I'm soo sorry. I've always shown respect for the deceased, it's just me I guess. Selling stuff at a memorial just seems kind of creepy to me.
    To me, properly utilizing land or sites is not disrespectful.

    And supporting memorials, museums (places of learning), etc with sales doesnt seem disrespectful either altho I can definitely imagine some things that are disrespectful or in bad taste.
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