View Poll Results: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

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  • I am for legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say yes.

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  • I am against legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say yes.

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  • I am for legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say no.

    13 31.71%
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Thread: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'll admit - I'm not intimately knowledgeable about how it works.
    I'd say you're not even passingly familiar with 'how it works'....

    On duty has a very high standard for vigilance and responsibility. The military punishes many things that civilians routinely do.

    But work hard and play hard is the motto of many who risk life and limb in defense of a bunch of 'have no idea' civilians.

    When grunts come out of the field, spend the night cleaning equipment and weapons for turn in, grab a shower and a few hours sleep they are ready to let it rip. It is PARTY TIME.

    Perhaps you are confusing folks who's primary job is to kill people and break things with the clergy...

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Normally I would agree with those who say that troops should be governed by Federal Law. However, I don't recognize the Federal law on this as being a 'regulation of commerce' (despite the Supreme Court ruling to the contrary), so I don't consider the Federal Law as being legitimate. Luckily I don't like the effect of Marijuana on me, so I don't have to personally worry about legalization. I use the much much more dangerous drug, liquor, instead.
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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So you think 'the troops' would be high while on duty? Why not drunk on duty? Or how about off post knocking down some sad sack civilian's wife when the balloon goes up???

    it seems a very odd argument.
    It was obviously sarcasm.

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should troops stationed in Colorado and Washington be allowed recreational use of marijuana? What say you?


    I am for legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say yes.
    I am against legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say yes.
    I am for legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say no.
    I am against legalized recreational use of marijuana and I say no.
    Other/I do not know.


    I say yes.I think that considering the fact we are having our troops sacrifice for their lives then they should be allowed to have all the vices they can.Basically they should be treated like a make a wish kid except with booze, hookers, dirty magazines, alcohol marijuana and etc.
    Not unless they love Article 15's.

    http://www.armycourtmartialdefense.c...le_15_UCMJ.pdf

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i think this is a issue best left to the commanding officers.
    Nope, commanders are bound to follow the letter of military UCMJ (laws)

    If CO's allow it, they'd be in violation of the UCMJ and subject to court martial.

    912a. ARTICLE 112a. WRONGFUL USE, POSSESSION, ETC., OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'll admit - I'm not intimately knowledgeable about how it works. If you're just a typical forty-a-week plebe not doing anything vital or dangerous, I'm good with it.
    OldWorldOrder already did a pretty good job of explaining it but I'll just toss something extra in. The military already has a pretty good structure in limiting chemical intake in soldiers when they shouldn't be. If they're in garrison, they can drink and do what they want off duty, however in training or during a deployment, all mind altering substances are extremely prohibited, tested for, and regulated.

    I mean, I was in the infantry for 4 years, so I know the kinds of things that happen. Men will drink a fifth a night of jack then still be hungover at PT. The advantage to marijuana is that it only takes about 2 hours for it to wear off, and it's more likely that they'll just fall asleep around 1-2 AM instead of breaking bottles over people's heads in the streets like they do now.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Nope, commanders are bound to follow the letter of military UCMJ (laws)

    If CO's allow it, they'd be in violation of the UCMJ and subject to court martial.

    912a. ARTICLE 112a. WRONGFUL USE, POSSESSION, ETC., OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    If it won't affect either their training or their effectiveness while on duty - they could shoot heroin for all I care.

    They are being asked to potentially make the ultimate sacrifice for WAY less then ultimate money...what they do on their own time (alone or with consenting adults) is no one's business but theirs.
    Last edited by DA60; 05-26-14 at 07:25 AM.

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    If it won't affect either their training or their effectiveness while on duty - they could shoot heroin for all I care.

    They are being asked to potentially make the ultimate sacrifice for WAY less then ultimate money...what they do on their own time (alone or with consenting adults) is no one's business but theirs.
    The way I see it is kind of like what one of my former leaders would always say to us when we would ask to do something "If it's a problem, it's a problem, if not, it's not."

    While he wasn't talking about drug use I still see pretty much anything as falling under this category. If soldier Bob shoots up in the evenings but can still perform his job, then it's really not any of my business. The second he stops being able to effectively do his job, then it becomes my business and everyone else's.
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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It was obviously sarcasm.
    Obviously not, (helpful hint- use the eye roll guy at the end)

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    Re: Should troops stationed in CO and WA be allowed recreational use of marijuana?

    No.

    They even discourage drinking - and riding motorcycles - as it can hinder your ability to perform when called on (and these two are legal).

    Reporting for duty while high would fast-track your ass to demerits and eventually out the Army. They expect you to be more mature than the whims of teenage fancy, not to cave into them.

    Aside that: people people stationed in a state are not resident of that state, they're resident of a different state. But of course CO didn't consider that if it voted yes they'd be providing for people across borders. (Heck, another state ran into this issue and that was in regard to a recycling program - not even illicit substances)
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