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  • USA would never enter the war ,nazi germany would win a victory over Europe and USSR

    7 22.58%
  • USA would enter the war but get defeated by Nazis ,nazi influence would spread all over the world.

    1 3.23%
  • USA would enter the war and take over Nazi germany and a different socialist block would be shaped

    4 12.90%
  • USA would enter the war ,no socialist block would be able to formed to lead the world politics

    1 3.23%
  • l have other theories

    17 54.84%
  • not my business

    2 6.45%
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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    FDR is considered one of the three great presidents this country has had by historians. I agree with them. I will give you my best guess coming from what I have read about him, I think FDR was an Anglophile and was determined to do all he could to keep England from falling to the Nazis. Besides he and Churchill had a real good friendship. I do not think it had anything to do with getting us out of the Great Depression or even manufacturing. Lend Lease pretty much determined we were not going to get paid. I think FDR realized Hitler could very well conquer Europe and pretty much of Asia if we didn't get ourselves involved. He did have great foresight.
    He was actually the opposite of an Anglophile. FDR was a staunch opponent of the British Empire and strongly favored decolonization. The result was that while he constantly questioned British motivations and activities he was partially blinded to Soviet machinations. This mistrust is most readily apparent in Burma, Hong Kong, and arguably in Greece and North Africa.

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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    In my opinion we would have got involved sooner or later. Hitler's main ambition was global domination and he saw the USA in the way of that, so he concentrated on building a huge navy as well as an air force. If Japan would have never been brazen enough Hitler would have taken his foolish exercise to "awaken a sleeping giant." eventually in some way.

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    To overcome these practical obstacles Hitler built up the German navy and began work on a long-range bomber -- the notorious Amerika Bomber -- which would be capable of flying to New York and back without refueling. Although the bomber proved difficult to construct, Hitler embarked on a crash building program of superbattleships promptly after the defeat of France. In addition, he began accumulating air and sea bases on the Atlantic coast to facilitate attacks on the United States. In April 1941 Hitler secretly pledged that he would join Japan in a war on the United States. This was critical. Only if Japan declared war would Germany follow.

    As long as Germany had to face the United States essentially by herself, she needed time to build her own blue-water navy; it therefore made sense to postpone hostilities with the Americans until Germany had been able to remedy this deficiency. If, on the other hand, Japan would come into the war on Germany's side, then that problem was automatically solved.
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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Soviets would've defeated nazis with or without US help (why is this not an option? stalingrad practically determined the outcome). As for japan, they were in a cold war already and being blockaded. To call pearl harbor "evil", well, they were desperate for oil and figured a war was inevitable. Same with calling the atomic bombs "more evil", you can disagree of course but there was strategy and military reasoning behind all of this. It wasn't done just for fun or complete genocide like what was going on in europe.

    If you ask me FDR's "cardinal sin" was not helping to end this genocide sooner, never mind pearl harbor

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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Minor title quibble: Pearl harbor was not "bombed", but rather "attacked". Strafing and torpedoes took part in the destruction.
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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The USSR would have declared war a few years later. Stalin signed the non-aggression pact to give himself time to build up his military. Had Hitler not broken the pact first, Stalin would've marched West and Europe would be speaking Russian.
    Maybe, it is hard to say. Stalin may have been happy with half of Poland, he always had this nasty habit of killing off all those whom he thought might challenge him. He may never have had the military and the leaders to challenge Hitler. Who knows?
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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    He was actually the opposite of an Anglophile. FDR was a staunch opponent of the British Empire and strongly favored decolonization. The result was that while he constantly questioned British motivations and activities he was partially blinded to Soviet machinations. This mistrust is most readily apparent in Burma, Hong Kong, and arguably in Greece and North Africa.
    True, FDR did not like colonization. Be that English, French, Dutch or who ever.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    If Ron Paul had his way we would've never gotten involved in Germany's war, because it was "none of our business." And there wouldn't be a Jew left alive today.
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    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    None of the above.
    USA would have become involved anyway, and the war would still have ended with Germany defeated and the USA and Soviet Union becoming the 2 world superpowers.
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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    None of the above.
    USA would have become involved anyway, and the war would still have ended with Germany defeated and the USA and Soviet Union becoming the 2 world superpowers.
    nostradamus ?
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    Re: What would happen if Pearl harbor wasn't bombed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    If Ron Paul had his way we would've never gotten involved in Germany's war, because it was "none of our business." And there wouldn't be a Jew left alive today.
    many of them were already gased..it was a little late in my opinion
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