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Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

Donald Sterling must sell his NBA team

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Grim17 said:
The NBA Owners are going to vote on whether to force Donald Sterling to sell the LA Clippers because of the racist comments he made on that tape that was secretly recorded by his wife.


After you vote, please explain your position.
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If you had a vote in that situation, would you vote "Yes" to force him to sell the team, or do you think he shouldn't be forced to see his team and vote "no".

I would vote no. It's his private property. And if the NBA is worried that it will collapse because of Sterling, then it was on very shaky ground to begin with.

The video was made by his golddgging girlfriend, not his wife.
 
tres borrachos said:
If you had a vote in that situation, would you vote "Yes" to force him to sell the team, or do you think he shouldn't be forced to see his team and vote "no".

I would vote no. It's his private property. And if the NBA is worried that it will collapse because of Sterling, then it was on very shaky ground to begin with.

The video was made by his golddgging girlfriend, not his wife.
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No, Its not "private property" He currently owns the right to have a franchise in the NBA, it's not real property, and his right is subject to the contract he signed when he got that right. He can not sell that right unless its approved by the league.
 
pbrauer said:
No, Its not "private property" He currently owns the right to have a franchise in the NBA, it's not real property, and his right is subject to the contract he signed when he got that right. He can not sell that right unless its approved by the league.
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The franchise is his private property. He paid for it. Did you pay for it?

The Bulls franchise is worth $1 billion. Can you & I make any claims of ownership of that $1 billion franchise? Nope. It's owned by a joint venture.
 
APACHERAT said:
The vast majority of the NBA players are racist.

1. Dennis Rodman -> Made racist comments against Larry Bird and got away with it. If a white player were have made the same comments about black players, there would have been outrage and demanding that he sell all of his persoanal assesses..

2. Kobe Bryant -> Committing flagrant fouls only to foreigners and minorities.

3. Shaq -> Racist against Asians.

4. Isiah Thomas -> Made racist comments against Larry Bird, making stupid statements about white people in court during his legal troubles.

5. KG -> Sucker punching white people.
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Stick to subjects you know something about, because basketball ain't one of them.
 
pbrauer said:
No, Its not "private property" He currently owns the right to have a franchise in the NBA, it's not real property, and his right is subject to the contract he signed when he got that right. He can not sell that right unless its approved by the league.
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No, it IS his private property. He and his team have joined a league, similar to a franchise, but the team is still his. Theoretically, the league can kick him AND the team out, or they could leave the league on their own and arrange their own games. All the league agreement is is an agreement to play other private teams under controlled conditions and the same rules.
 
I have never been at all comfortable with the concept of one person owning another, just because they work for their "team"..
In the sports industry this seems to be common parlance.
When controversies like this one come up many are comfortable with saying that the team is Sterling's "property".
NO. People are never property and this mode of thinking leads to the kind of language that got this racist asshole into trouble in the first place.
 
Buck Ewer said:
I have never been at all comfortable with the concept of one person owning another, just because they work for their "team"..
In the sports industry this seems to be common parlance.
When controversies like this one come up many are comfortable with saying that the team is Sterling's "property".
NO. People are never property and this mode of thinking leads to the kind of language that got this racist asshole into trouble in the first place.
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So does that mean we all own the Clippers?
 
The NBA?? Isn't that those guys who throw a ball around and knock each other down?

The Clippers?? What's that?

Donald Sterling?? Who?

LOL!!


Seriously, I don't give a rip what ANY of those guys do.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Nobody owns the Clippers. The Clippers are people. Nobody owns other people.
A contract is not a human deed.
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No, the Clippers are a franchise that employs players. That's like claiming that nobody really "owns" the Taco Bell down the street.
 
Nope. It's his property. The NBA can choose to exclude the Clippers so long as he owns it, they cannot force him to sell his own personal property because they don't like what he said.
 
tres borrachos said:
The franchise is his private property. He paid for it. Did you pay for it?
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Sure, he paid for it, but any franchise is a grant, an agreement, in that the franchisee has to follow rules and regs of the franchise contract.

He did not, he can be forced to sell his franchise. He signed the agreement with full knowledge.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Nobody owns the Clippers. The Clippers are people. Nobody owns other people.
A contract to work is not a human deed.
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So we can all claim some of the Clippers profits, because nobody owns them? Got it. How do we go about doing this?
 
Kobie said:
No, the Clippers are a franchise that employs players. That's like claiming that nobody really "owns" the Taco Bell down the street.
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Of all of the restaurants I would want to own a franchise right to, that would be the last one. Ick.

Back in the 1960s you could buy a McDonald's franchise for under $6,000. Can you imagine what it would be worth today?
 
Kobie said:
No, the Clippers are a franchise that employs players. That's like claiming that nobody really "owns" the Taco Bell down the street.
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Of course some one can own a franchise. A franchise is a business.
When have you ever heard that Taco Bell employees are "owned" by the franchise owner?
This kind of parlance, that employees are bought, traded and owned is common and accepted in the sports industry.
It's time, I think, to ask why that is.
 
tres borrachos said:
Back in the 1960s you could buy a McDonald's franchise for under $6,000. Can you imagine what it would be worth today?
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And you could be forced into a sale of your franchise if you broke any clause of the contract you signed when you purchased the franchise.
 
If I were in a position to vote,I would know much more about the man than I do now. Since I rely so heavily on my own reactions rather than relying on those of others,my vote would probably be predicated on my intereactions with the man. Presumably,we would have met at an owners meeting, and so I would have had the opportunity to see for myself.

Knowing what I actually know, I wouldn't vote one way or the other.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Nobody owns the Clippers. The Clippers are people. Nobody owns other people.
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The Clippers is a brand, a franchise of the NBA....it is not "people" or a person.

Stop conflating what the franchise is.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
And you could be forced into a sale of your franchise if you broke any clause of the contract you signed when you purchased the franchise.
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Too much salt on the fries or a change to the "special sauce" and you are out of business...
In NBA franchises, say something racist and it is the same...you are out of business if you don't comply with the franchise rules...
It's not so different.
 
tres borrachos said:
I already know that. The question was would we vote yes or no. My answer was no.
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Based on what? If the assumption is that you are another Team owner (who gets to vote), what basis would you have for not voting for the stripping of ownership rights of DS?
 
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