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Thread: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    I have never been at all comfortable with the concept of one person owning another, just because they work for their "team"..
    In the sports industry this seems to be common parlance.
    When controversies like this one come up many are comfortable with saying that the team is Sterling's "property".
    NO. People are never property and this mode of thinking leads to the kind of language that got this racist asshole into trouble in the first place.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I have never been at all comfortable with the concept of one person owning another, just because they work for their "team"..
    In the sports industry this seems to be common parlance.
    When controversies like this one come up many are comfortable with saying that the team is Sterling's "property".
    NO. People are never property and this mode of thinking leads to the kind of language that got this racist asshole into trouble in the first place.
    So does that mean we all own the Clippers?

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So does that mean we all own the Clippers?
    Nobody owns the Clippers. The Clippers are people. Nobody owns other people.
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    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 05-25-14 at 12:32 PM.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    The NBA?? Isn't that those guys who throw a ball around and knock each other down?

    The Clippers?? What's that?

    Donald Sterling?? Who?

    LOL!!


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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Nobody owns the Clippers. The Clippers are people. Nobody owns other people.
    A contract is not a human deed.
    No, the Clippers are a franchise that employs players. That's like claiming that nobody really "owns" the Taco Bell down the street.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Nope. It's his property. The NBA can choose to exclude the Clippers so long as he owns it, they cannot force him to sell his own personal property because they don't like what he said.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The franchise is his private property. He paid for it. Did you pay for it?
    Sure, he paid for it, but any franchise is a grant, an agreement, in that the franchisee has to follow rules and regs of the franchise contract.

    He did not, he can be forced to sell his franchise. He signed the agreement with full knowledge.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Nobody owns the Clippers. The Clippers are people. Nobody owns other people.
    A contract to work is not a human deed.
    So we can all claim some of the Clippers profits, because nobody owns them? Got it. How do we go about doing this?

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, the Clippers are a franchise that employs players. That's like claiming that nobody really "owns" the Taco Bell down the street.
    Of all of the restaurants I would want to own a franchise right to, that would be the last one. Ick.

    Back in the 1960s you could buy a McDonald's franchise for under $6,000. Can you imagine what it would be worth today?

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, the Clippers are a franchise that employs players. That's like claiming that nobody really "owns" the Taco Bell down the street.
    Of course some one can own a franchise. A franchise is a business.
    When have you ever heard that Taco Bell employees are "owned" by the franchise owner?
    This kind of parlance, that employees are bought, traded and owned is common and accepted in the sports industry.
    It's time, I think, to ask why that is.

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