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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Sterling was stripped by the government from his rights and freedoms? No? Then he wasn't stripped of his rights and freedoms.
    FFS, I said "without fear of government or entrepreneurial reprisal."

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think I'd probably vote that he should be forced to sell it. Doesn't make me happy. Apparently, though, those are the rules. I think it's reasonable to expect that there's a price to be paid for voicing one's prejudice as a public figure. Yes! Yes, I know! He didn't do it in public. But it became public. End of story.

    Paying a hefty price for inappropriate comments/conduct is certainly not without precedent. Think Dog The Bounty Hunter; Alec Baldwin; professional sports players who've lost their endorsements because of their conduct.

    How can you expect to stay as owner of a basketball team when you've as much as said you're racist? Was he tricked into it? Absolutely. And she even covered herself from a charge of illegal recording by saying he'd asked her to keep recordings of his conversations. The man's an idiot.

    I do think it should be a fair sale and not a fire sale, though. With him putting the team into his wife's sole name, perhaps he's bought some time...
    I dissagree... You don't take away a persons legally owned business because they're an idiot, or because of something they said.... That's not the America I know.

    Just let the free market punish him, and believe me, it will. Here's what I said earlier:

    For you race hustlers out there who are chomping at the bit to pounce on me, play the race card and accuse me wanting a racist to get a free pass, you couldn't be farther from the truth. Allowing Sterling to keep his team is anything but a free pass. If he is allowed to keep the team, the free market will punish him to a far greater degree financially, than forcing him to sell the team now would, and assure that the public backlash doesn't fade away anytime soon.

    If you force him to sell the team now, he will get a good price because the true financial backlash from his comments have not diminished the teams value as of yet. Allowing him to keep the team and to continue to manage it, will result in every decent, marketable player on the team to flee after the season ends and contracts expire, and no player of any quality will ever sign a contract to play with the Clippers. Meaning they are guaranteed to be losing, last place team for as long as he is owner, and season tickets, which is a huge revenue stream for NBA teams, would virtually vanish next season. Then there's the issue of TV revenue, sponsors and endorsements. No company in their right mind would want to associate, much less sponsor the Clippers, meaning that local TV will not be able to sell advertising for games and the clippers games will not be televised. The same would likely happen with radio also and would in effect, cut off every major revenue stream and in a very short amount of time, totally bankrupt the organisation... Sterling will then be stuck with a worthless franchise that's costing him millions, that nobody will be interested in buying, and even if he did manage to find a buyer, would only get a small fraction of what he would get if he is forced to sell the team now, while it's still marketable.

    There is one more bright spot in letting him keep the team... If he is forced out now, this whole issue disappears in a few years and Sterling's life on a personal level, a comfort level, will return to normal and he won't suffer any more grief publicly over his words. Keeping the team however, will keep him in the spotlight, keep his name in the newspapers, keep him in the publics eye, and guarantee that this issue will not go away so easily. He'll have to deal with the public backlash for many years and possibly, for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I dissagree... You don't take away a persons legally owned business because they're an idiot, or because of something they said.... That's not the America I know.

    Just let the free market punish him, and believe me, it will. Here's what I said earlier:
    Grim, I like what you said earlier. Makes sense to me. However, he signed away his rights in his membership contract. The NBA probably doesn't want the Clippers to become a national joke. I think that's the reason for the clause(s) in their contracts that allow such maneuvering.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya 29A. Yeah......but what do the Athletes do now. Since people are out to catch them now making racial remarks. Anywhere and with Any Sport? NBA specifically and then the NFL.
    Hey, MMC. Not sure of the NFL's player contract, but the NBA players are at least bound by Article 35 of the NBA's constitution, hopefully they've read it, as it does prohibit remarks of a prejudicial nature.

    NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION UNIFORM PLAYER CONTRACT
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Apache. I was just thinking about some of the stuff Rodman has said.....still think if someone like Lebron is caught on a Cellphone in some rant and they catch him using racial language.....my my my, just think how things are going to get ugly about Forcing one such as him out......in shame.
    Some years ago a sports reporter for the Los Angeles Times wrote an article about NBA fans in particular with Laker fans, white laker fans on how they always talk in the "first person" as if they were on the court playing with the Lakers. It's alway "We won." or "We lost." Never "the lakers won," or "the lakers lost."

    Listen to NFL fans or baseball, ice hockey, America's Cup, horse racing, etc. It's rarely in the first person, it's usually the Packers won, the Bears won, Dodgers lost, Kings won, Seattle Slew won by a nose. But when it comes to NBA basketball, it's always in the first person "we won" or "we lost."

    Then the reporter went on in reference to all of these white NBA Laker fans who talk as if they were on the team and asking if they knew that the majority of the Lakers probably personally wouldn't like them and likely refer to them as honkies or crackers..

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The NBA Owners are going to vote on whether to force Donald Sterling to sell the LA Clippers because of the racist comments he made on that tape that was secretly recorded by his wife.

    If you had a vote in that situation, would you vote "Yes" to force him to sell the team, or do you think he shouldn't be forced to see his team and vote "no".


    After you vote, please explain your position.
    If a CEO of a corporation says something really, really stupid, and the thing that he said will so damage the brand of that corporation that they will lose a great deal of money, the DUTY of the board of directors will be to replace him ASAP, that they can protect the brand and not lose a great deal of money.

    Sterling said something that would cost the NBA a minimum of tens of millions of dollars in revenue - if they did not act quickly and decisively, then the public would have perceived their inaction as tacit tolerance of (if not agreement with) Sterling and his comments...and perception is everything.

    In other words, the reason the other owners had to vote to take away the Clippers for him was to protect the revenue stream of all owners, because they all would have suffered significant losses as a direct result. Their actions, then, were their fiduciary DUTY as part of the group of owners of NBA teams.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    Hey, MMC. Not sure of the NFL's player contract, but the NBA players are at least bound by Article 35 of the NBA's constitution, hopefully they've read it, as it does prohibit remarks of a prejudicial nature.

    NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION UNIFORM PLAYER CONTRACT
    http://www.nbpa.org/sites/default/files/EXHIBIT%20A.pdf
    It's obvious that Barack Obama never read the Constitution or paid attention to the oath of POTUS he took.

    Wait a minute, doesn't Obama also shoot hoops ?

    Must be a basketball thing.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    Hey, MMC. Not sure of the NFL's player contract, but the NBA players are at least bound by Article 35 of the NBA's constitution, hopefully they've read it, as it does prohibit remarks of a prejudicial nature.

    NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION UNIFORM PLAYER CONTRACT
    http://www.nbpa.org/sites/default/files/EXHIBIT%20A.pdf


    Yeah, I heard that they were bringing this up on a Radio show......that when they got into the players and all they do. Including those caught up with coming crimes and breaking the law. Or Leagues rules. How the NBA and or NFL will react when its one of their Big time money makers. Wherein they were protected by the Leagues.

    Now they wont be able to do that, since the liberal MS Media wanted to push this agenda of PC to hold accountable a persons private conversations.....even if they are Jerks.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Some years ago a sports reporter for the Los Angeles Times wrote an article about NBA fans in particular with Laker fans, white laker fans on how they always talk in the "first person" as if they were on the court playing with the Lakers. It's alway "We won." or "We lost." Never "the lakers won," or "the lakers lost."

    Listen to NFL fans or baseball, ice hockey, America's Cup, horse racing, etc. It's rarely in the first person, it's usually the Packers won, the Bears won, Dodgers lost, Kings won, Seattle Slew won by a nose. But when it comes to NBA basketball, it's always in the first person "we won" or "we lost."

    Then the reporter went on in reference to all of these white NBA Laker fans who talk as if they were on the team and asking if they knew that the majority of the Lakers probably personally wouldn't like them and likely refer to them as honkies or crackers..


    But its okay for Comedy.....Right? Otherwise we will have to get rid of the Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock types? Or damn.....even Russell Peters. Oh wait he's Canadian, they can still say what they want to say in private in Canada, without getting into trouble.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The NBA Owners are going to vote on whether to force Donald Sterling to sell the LA Clippers because of the racist comments he made on that tape that was secretly recorded by his wife.

    If you had a vote in that situation, would you vote "Yes" to force him to sell the team, or do you think he shouldn't be forced to see his team and vote "no".


    After you vote, please explain your position.
    I do not see how any authority exists to do so.

    Only government may deprive any person of life, liberty, or property; and only through due process of law, in accordance with an allegation of illegal behavior, through a process in which the subject of such an action is given fair and just chance to defend himself against those accusations.

    I have yet to hear of any credible claim that Mr. Sterling has violated any law. All of this is over a conversation which he thought was private, in which he expressed an opinion that most find disagreeable. He has every right to hold that opinion, and he has every right to express it; and nobody has any right or authority to deprive him of his rightful property or of the use thereof, because they don't like this opinion.
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