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Thread: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Again, I'm not making a legal argument, I'm making one of principal.
    No, you're not making an argument of principle, the owners will determine if Sterling hurt their business by his racist comments and will vote on that principle.


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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You're missing something very important in this debate. The other owners would not vote him out to in your word to punish him. They would vote against him because they felt what he did tarnished the NBA brand and therefore hurt their investment in the NBA.
    Bull. Their value is independent of his words. There is no "addition by subtraction" in this case. The value of the Clippers, under Sterling, may decrease - but that devaluation is not infectious.

    Anyone who thinks that the owners aren't doing this (if they vote for his oust) for black appeasement is in a serious state of denial.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    The NBA is a private entity .. If they don't want him owning a team in their league then the NBA doesn't have to have him. Not everyone can own a team. It is a privilege, weather he likes it or not he is public figure and his recent comments just make the league look bad, so he broke the rules.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Bull. Their value is independent of his words. There is no "addition by subtraction" in this case. The value of the Clippers, under Sterling, may decrease - but that devaluation is not infectious.

    Anyone who thinks that the owners aren't doing this (if they vote for his oust) for black appeasement is in a serious state of denial.
    I assume most if not all the owners are business people in their own right and will vote to serve their own interest whatever that might be.


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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What....the "principle" of privacy?
    Try reading what I have written and I believe it's pretty clear. Eight letters, it starts with an "A" and ends with an "N"

    You have no qualms about the "privacy" of public officials when what they do in "private" comes out and damages them.
    That is correct... But unlike public officials, Donald Sterling was not elected by me and entrusted to make decisions about the laws that effect my life, or how my tax money is spent.

    Please, don't base your argument on "privacy", your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

    A leg to stand on?

    What part of "I'm not making a legal argument" are you having trouble understanding?

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    That is correct... But unlike public officials, Donald Sterling was not elected by me and entrusted to make decisions about the laws that effect my life, or how my tax money is spent.
    Straw, that isn't argument, the argument you used was that within the league decisions, what he says should be private and should not be used against him within the league. Again, his privacy is not a defense, the damage is done, it cannot be "unsaid".

    The point still was that if you believe in some "privacy" for him, it should extend to politicians if their private action have no bearing on taxes or laws.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I assume most if not all the owners are business people in their own right and will vote to serve their own interest whatever that might be.
    Societal pressure is higher than profitability here. All the owners have to "prove" they're not racist by being hypocritical here - as if what Sterling did was a cardinal sin.

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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    He did not publicly make racist comments or in any way act in such a manner that any reasonable person could conclude put the league, it's members, or other owners at financial risk.
    You are arguing that Adam Silver is an unreasonable person, that the league leadership is unreasonable.
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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Societal pressure is higher than profitability here. All the owners have to "prove" they're not racist by being hypocritical here - as if what Sterling did was a cardinal sin.
    That's your opinion, and that's all it is. I don't believe smart business people make decisions that way.


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    Re: Would you vote to take the Clippers from Donald Sterling?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That's your opinion, and that's all it is. I don't believe smart business people make decisions that way.
    Yeah, I bet you think CEOs who get fired for stupid tweets are actually getting fired for "restructuring" purposes too.

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