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  • Between the end of the Civil War and the beginning of World War One?

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  • Today, including the time after passage of the Civil Rights Act?

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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Which is a right that women didn't have until the past 50 years or so.
    Yep, they now have the right to have equal gov't intrusion on that right.
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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    LOL at the white men who chose a time period other than now. Clueless.

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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Did we? You'll notice if you look at the charts that the growth of the programs had lessened during the mid- to late-90's, and generally rose only somewhat through the 2000's...until we hit the Great Recession - then we had big jumps across the board. That's not a failure of anti-poverty programs - that's a problem with the economy as a whole.

    Another thing to consider is our aging population - us baby boomers are getting older and are less able to work. There's so many other factors involved - student debt, the credit crunch, the moving of so much of our manufacturing base overseas (thanks to Clinton and the Republicans whose bills he signed), the shift in our economy from a manufacturing economy to a service-oriented economy, and lots of other factors.

    So I would be loath to say that the growth in spending per capita for the social safety net is simply a matter of the government throwing money at the poor. It's just not that simple.
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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    LOL at the white men who chose a time period other than now. Clueless.
    The truly clueless are the blacks on the Liberal plantation, who endlessly bray about their decades of victimhood and celebrate their "victory" over the whites at the same time. While all the while, quietly behind their backs, their Liberal Saviors are replacing the black votes, jobs, neighborhoods and victim status with Mexicans and Asians.

    HE cares though, oh yeah, Obama, he's got your back. Wanna free phone?
    Last edited by Ray410; 05-24-14 at 05:09 PM.

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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    Show me where I said anything close to that....dude. No....dude. We should ALL have the SAME RIGHTS....dude.



    Good for you....dude. So am I from the Deep South. Don't tell me how terrible black males have it compared to whites. There are even more white victims of not only racism, but race violence by blacks in this country every damn day. Not to mention the black on black violence....every day...dude.

    I'm not trying to change 'history'...dude. I'm talking about RIGHT the hell TODAY....dude.
    Dude - Missouri's not part of the Deep South. Missouri was just a border state in the Civil War. You've got a LOT to learn about the South if you think Missouri's really part of the Deep South.

    And your claims about how terrible whites have it, and how racist blacks are, are simply evidence that you really don't have a clue what you're talking about. You're just another (probably white and older) conservative who's ticked that his America - the one where the whites were always on top of everything - has been taken away from him.

    You can have the last word - I won't reply. Good day, sir.
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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    It was probably freest before 1492...

    Then... the fire nation attacked....
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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The truly clueless are the blacks on the Liberal plantation, who endlessly bray about their decades of victimhood and celebrate their "victory" over the whites at the same time. While all the time, quietly behind their backs, their Liberal Saviors are replacing the black votes, jobs, neighborhoods and victim status with Mexicans and Asians.

    HE cares though, oh yeah, Obama, he's got your back. Wanna phone?
    Yeah, I'm still waitin' for my free Bush cell phone.

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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The truly clueless are the blacks on the Liberal plantation, who shriek about their victimhood and celebrate their victory over the whites at the same time. While all the time, quietly behind their backs, their Liberal Saviors are replacing the black votes, neighborhoods and victim status with Mexicans and Asians.

    HE cares though, oh yeah, Obama, he's got your back. Wanna phone?
    Eh, I think most black Americans are aware that conservative and liberal politicians don't respect black Americans to the necessary degree. In all fairness to the politicians though, they don't ultimately care about anybody but their rich donors.

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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Did we? You'll notice if you look at the charts that the growth of the programs had lessened during the mid- to late-90's, and generally rose only somewhat through the 2000's...until we hit the Great Recession - then we had big jumps across the board. That's not a failure of anti-poverty programs - that's a problem with the economy as a whole.

    Another thing to consider is our aging population - us baby boomers are getting older and are less able to work. There's so many other factors involved - student debt, the credit crunch, the moving of so much of our manufacturing base overseas (thanks to Clinton and the Republicans whose bills he signed), the shift in our economy from a manufacturing economy to a service-oriented economy, and lots of other factors.

    So I would be loath to say that the growth in spending per capita for the social safety net is simply a matter of the government throwing money at the poor. It's just not that simple.
    My point, in case you missed it, was that the poverty rate remains stable despite spending ever more. You asserted that, at some point, poverty program spending would level off (or decline) as the poverty rate stabilized. The poverty rate has been stable, with the possible exception of recession periods, yet poverty program spending continues to rise.
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    Re: When was America most free as a nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Yeah, I'm still waitin' for my free Bush cell phone.
    Ha! Whitey's on the run with that one!

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