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  • I'm a Vet-yes we should trust them

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  • I'm a Vet- No never trust them

    11 39.29%
  • I'm not a vet-Yes vets should trust them

    2 7.14%
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    Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Being a veteran of OEF. It been no secret to myself and my fellow vets the horrors of the VA. Heck it took three times before they would activate my Education benifits. One the times being that on their records I was a dishonorable discharge Vet just release from Ft. Leavenworth. Now with all the issues that just have risen with VA including the death of my fellow Brothers in arms. Should we Vets ever have any faith and trust in the VA ever again? and If no what would it take for the faith to be restored?

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    It depends. The VA can be very good or very bad. The worst I have experienced is Phoenix. Many of us have known something was fubar at Phoenix VA for a few years now. I transferred my care to Tucson to avoid having to deal with Phoenix. I did that before the fit hit the shan.

    Tucson VA has been outstanding. I cannot say enough good things about the VA in Tucson. Sure, I have to drive to Tucson, but for the quality of patient care I get I don't mind.










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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Being a veteran of OEF. It been no secret to myself and my fellow vets the horrors of the VA. Heck it took three times before they would activate my Education benifits. One the times being that on their records I was a dishonorable discharge Vet just release from Ft. Leavenworth. Now with all the issues that just have risen with VA including the death of my fellow Brothers in arms. Should we Vets ever have any faith and trust in the VA ever again? and If no what would it take for the faith to be restored?
    Where your health is concerned, you trust no one but yourself. No one. Not the doctor, not the VA system, not any system. If you have family, listen to them. Listen to your instincts. Do your own homework. No system is perfect. The VA isn't perfect (far from it); your local hospital isn't perfect (far from it); and neither is your doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Where your health is concerned, you trust no one but yourself. No one. Not the doctor, not the VA system, not any system. If you have family, listen to them. Listen to your instincts. Do your own homework. No system is perfect. The VA isn't perfect (far from it); your local hospital isn't perfect (far from it); and neither is your doctor.
    When it comes to my health unless a family member is a doctor I would listen to a doctor over health when it comes to health. I have some family members that try to talk people out of vaccines and anti-depressants

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    When it comes to my health unless a family member is a doctor I would listen to a doctor over health when it comes to health. I have some family members that try to talk people out of vaccines and anti-depressants
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Being a veteran of OEF. It been no secret to myself and my fellow vets the horrors of the VA. Heck it took three times before they would activate my Education benifits. One the times being that on their records I was a dishonorable discharge Vet just release from Ft. Leavenworth. Now with all the issues that just have risen with VA including the death of my fellow Brothers in arms. Should we Vets ever have any faith and trust in the VA ever again? and If no what would it take for the faith to be restored?
    The problem with the VA is getting into the system. Wait times for disabilities rulings sometimes takes years. Getting into the system to see a doctor can also take a long time. But once accepted, the treatment is good. The priority group listing:

    Priority Group 1
    Veterans with VA Service-connected disabilities rated 50% or more.
    Veterans assigned a total disability rating for compensation based on unemployability.

    Priority Group 2
    Veterans with VA Service-connected disabilities rated 30% or 40%.

    Priority Group 3
    Veterans who are former POWs.
    Veterans awarded the Purple Heart Medal.
    Veterans awarded the Medal of Honor.
    Veterans whose discharge was for a disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty.
    Veterans with VA Service-connected disabilities rated 10% or 20%.
    Veterans awarded special eligibility classification under Title 38, U.S.C., 1151, “benefits for individuals disabled by treatment or vocational rehabilitation.”

    Priority Group 4
    Veterans receiving increased compensation or pension based on their need for regular Aid and Attendance or by reason of being permanently Housebound.
    Veterans determined by VA to be catastrophically disabled.

    Priority Group 5
    Nonservice-connected Veterans and noncompensable Service-connected Veterans rated 0%, whose annual income and/or net worth are not greater than the VA financial thresholds.
    Veterans receiving VA Pension benefits.
    Veterans eligible for Medicaid benefits.

    Priority Group 6
    Compensable 0% Service-connected Veterans.
    Veterans exposed to ionizing radiation during atmospheric testing or during the occupation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    Project 112/SHAD participants.
    Veterans who served in the Republic of Vietnam between January 9, 1962 and May 7, 1975.
    Veterans who served in the Southwest Asia theater of operations from August 2, 1990, through November 11, 1998.
    Veterans who served in a theater of combat operations after November 11, 1998, as follows:
    Veterans discharged from active duty on or after January 28, 2003, for five years post discharge

    Priority Group 7
    Veterans with incomes below the geographic means test (GMT) income thresholds and who agree to pay the applicable copayment.

    Priority Group 8
    Veterans with gross household incomes above the VA national income threshold and the geographically-adjusted income threshold for their resident location and who agrees to pay copays

    Now depending when you do receive your rating and what group you fall into, depending on the case load the VA clinic or hospital may not see or treat all groups.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You don't get it. Good luck.
    Actually I do get it .

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Being a veteran of OEF. It been no secret to myself and my fellow vets the horrors of the VA. Heck it took three times before they would activate my Education benifits. One the times being that on their records I was a dishonorable discharge Vet just release from Ft. Leavenworth. Now with all the issues that just have risen with VA including the death of my fellow Brothers in arms. Should we Vets ever have any faith and trust in the VA ever again? and If no what would it take for the faith to be restored?
    You never should have trusted the VA.

    The VA is a government beauracracy and always have been. Most VA employees are not veterans. The first rule of any government beauracracy is to serve and protect the beauracracy.

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Being a veteran of OEF. It been no secret to myself and my fellow vets the horrors of the VA. Heck it took three times before they would activate my Education benifits. One the times being that on their records I was a dishonorable discharge Vet just release from Ft. Leavenworth. Now with all the issues that just have risen with VA including the death of my fellow Brothers in arms. Should we Vets ever have any faith and trust in the VA ever again? and If no what would it take for the faith to be restored?
    I've stated numerous times on this forum, going back way before the current scandal came to light, that I have private insurance and civilian doctors because of the VA and their lack of competence. I have never trusted the VA to anything for me; medical, other benefits or otherwise.

    That organization has been useless for decades. Even way before Obama, even though it has gotten way worse since then.

    Hell, Bush fired General Eric K. Shinseki from the Army for incompetence, and Obama made him the Secretary of Veterans Affairs for God's sake... WHY???

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    VA hospitals have differing levels of care, depending on the hospital itself. Not all VA hospitals are bad, anymore than they are all good. The Syracuse VA is top notch - best we've ever been to. The one in Birmingham is one of the worst.

    To paint the entire VA healthcare system with that broad a brush isn't fair to the VA hospitals who actually do care about the veterans and their health care - and yes, they are out there.
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