View Poll Results: Should vets trust the VA?

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  • I'm a Vet-yes we should trust them

    3 10.71%
  • I'm a Vet- No never trust them

    11 39.29%
  • I'm not a vet-Yes vets should trust them

    2 7.14%
  • i'm not a vet- No they shouldn't the country has failed them

    5 17.86%
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Thread: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Exactly. If hospital administrators don't know what's going on in their own hospitals, it's their own damn fault. It's like restaurant owners being oblivious to what happens in their kitchens.

    It is the administrators job to know what's going on in his or her hospital. If they don't know, they don't deserve to be there.
    I on occasion am sent a feedback form to fill out, which is sent back to the VA, and someone is supposed to review these feedback forms and take action where there are discrepancies. I wonder how long it took and how many complaints were lodged before someone sat up and took notice?

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    You still mad?
    Obviously, you're not and that's no surprise.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I don't see anyone doing this for political reasons. I see incompetence in the Phoenix VA Medical Center. How is that political, actually? Honestly, unless Shinseki had actual working knowledge of what was going on, and participated in the cover up, I don't see how he should be held accountable, either.
    There are 26 facilities that have been vaught purging their patient rolls. That's a systemic problem. If Shenseki knew about it, he was in on it and if he didn't, he's incompetant. Either, he needs to go.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obviously, you're not and that's no surprise.
    You're still mad huh? I bought one of these a few days ago,

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    and still can't see or feel other people's feelings on public forums. How do you do it?

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Being a veteran of OEF. It been no secret to myself and my fellow vets the horrors of the VA. Heck it took three times before they would activate my Education benifits. One the times being that on their records I was a dishonorable discharge Vet just release from Ft. Leavenworth. Now with all the issues that just have risen with VA including the death of my fellow Brothers in arms. Should we Vets ever have any faith and trust in the VA ever again? and If no what would it take for the faith to be restored?
    OK with that first sentence, why would youask this question.

    You already kknow the answer.

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Other: what choice do they have?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Tell that to the families of the vets that have died, because the VA ****ed them over.
    And in the private sector, people have died because hospitals and/or insurance companies have "****ed them over".
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Other: what choice do they have?
    A few posters are full of hot air here....
    VA healthcare is not for active duty or dependents or retirees, it is for veterans who don't have civilian health care, whatever the reason. Money is usually the issue.
    Active duty military, dependents, spouses all use medical services on base if there is one nearby. Civilian contractors (under Champus, IIRC) serve those who are not near a base . Retirees under age 65, and their dependents also use base medical facilities.
    Once you hit 65, you SHOULD get on medicare, but if you want to go cheap, use the VA. I know one who refused medicare since he had the VA taking care of him.
    He was not poor and wife had a good job. He lived to regret it....actually died regretting it.

    Of those who supposedly died waiting, why don't we have the particulars? Were any over 65? Obese? Alcoholics? Have they refused medicare just to save money by not having part B, and D, and a supplemental to cover what A and B don't cover? What were their illnesses, what stage? Are any like my brother who they refused to treat for emphysema while still smoking two packs a day? They told him to go home, and he could come back when his smoking days are over. He quit that day
    The media is all over this, and I suspect there is more smoke here than fire, no pun intended.

    I have priority 1 status, and use the nearest clinic, with no complaints. My condition is Parkinson's stage 3, frustrating but not fatal for any time soon.
    I will continue to use them until I start to doubt their interest in helping keep me healthy. Once I suspect their interest, I will be gone.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    A few posters are full of hot air here....
    VA healthcare is not for active duty or dependents or retirees, it is for veterans who don't have civilian health care, whatever the reason. Money is usually the issue.
    Active duty military, dependents, spouses all use medical services on base if there is one nearby. Civilian contractors (under Champus, IIRC) serve those who are not near a base . Retirees under age 65, and their dependents also use base medical facilities.

    You aren't entirely accurate, Bill. As a military wife, I was seen at the VA hospital with no problem. I wasn't forced to go to a military base clinic. In fact, when we lived in Huntsville, Alabama, my husband tried to be seen at Redstone Arsenal and was not allowed to be seen at the base clinic. The base commander makes the decision of who is, or is not seen, at the base clinic. The only people allowed to be seen at the base clinic were active duty and Tricare Prime. At the time, we only had Tricare Standard.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You aren't entirely accurate, Bill. As a military wife, I was seen at the VA hospital with no problem. I wasn't forced to go to a military base clinic. In fact, when we lived in Huntsville, Alabama, my husband tried to be seen at Redstone Arsenal and was not allowed to be seen at the base clinic. The base commander makes the decision of who is, or is not seen, at the base clinic. The only people allowed to be seen at the base clinic were active duty and Tricare Prime. At the time, we only had Tricare Standard.
    Correct, Base Commanders have a lot of say....I live in AZ half the year, Utah half the year. Before reaching 65, I could use Luke AFB, as could my wife.
    But Hill AFB in Utah was not available to us. So we tried to be sick only while in AZ....
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