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  • I'm a Vet-yes we should trust them

    3 10.71%
  • I'm a Vet- No never trust them

    11 39.29%
  • I'm not a vet-Yes vets should trust them

    2 7.14%
  • i'm not a vet- No they shouldn't the country has failed them

    5 17.86%
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Thread: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

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    You mad?
    Or nahhh.

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    My personal opinion of VA medical in a small town in New Mexico isn't good. The place was always jammed, you couldn't hardly get anyone to answer the phone to make appointments, and their followups were really crappy. I won't mention which VA CBOC it was. Place was horrible.
    Yeah, they are definitely hard to get in in a lot of them - especially in military areas like where we live. But that's because they opened up the VA where you can walk in with a cold now and be seen. It used to be only for active duty, retired and SC disabled. Now it's almost anybody that served.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    You mad?
    You're not made that veterans died, because of sytemic incompetency and corruption?
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    You mad?
    You're not angry that veterans have died because of systemic incompetency and corruption?
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I am the wife of a 100% disabled veteran, and I will tell you that a veteran's life is no more valuable than anyone else's. You start complaining like this, and you need to add in all the other hospitals who've had patients die. VA hospitals are not the only ones who are have problems. They ALL do.
    The contribution that veterans have made to the country is priceless. The government made a promise to take care of injured vets; the government dropped the ball; someone should be held accountable.

    It's disgusting to devalue the lives of these people for political reasons.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Or nahhh.



    Yeah, they are definitely hard to get in in a lot of them - especially in military areas like where we live. But that's because they opened up the VA where you can walk in with a cold now and be seen. It used to be only for active duty, retired and SC disabled. Now it's almost anybody that served.
    I wished mine had a walk in clinic for ailments. As it was, I called for an appointment and by chance they had an opening for 8:15 that morning due to a cancellation, I just got lucky getting in so quickly. Combat injured vets go to the front of the line at my clinic, which is good.

    I'm puzzled by the lack of care vets received in other places. That sucks.

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're not angry that veterans have died because of systemic incompetency and corruption?
    You still mad?

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The contribution that veterans have made to the country is priceless. The government made a promise to take care of injured vets; the government dropped the ball; someone should be held accountable.

    It's disgusting to devalue the lives of these people for political reasons.
    I don't see anyone doing this for political reasons. I see incompetence in the Phoenix VA Medical Center. How is that political, actually? Honestly, unless Shinseki had actual working knowledge of what was going on, and participated in the cover up, I don't see how he should be held accountable, either.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I wished mine had a walk in clinic for ailments. As it was, I called for an appointment and by chance they had an opening for 8:15 that morning due to a cancellation, I just got lucky getting in so quickly. Combat injured vets go to the front of the line at my clinic, which is good.

    I'm puzzled by the lack of care vets received in other places. That sucks.
    Every hospital is different. Every single one. You can go to a University of Florida hospital in Jacksonville, and you can go to the same exact hospital system in Gainesville, and get different care. One might be good, and the other might be the worst you've ever had. The hospital care ultimately boils down to hospital administration. VA hospitals are honestly no different. They just have different patients, but administration is administration.
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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Every hospital is different. Every single one. You can go to a University of Florida hospital in Jacksonville, and you can go to the same exact hospital system in Gainesville, and get different care. One might be good, and the other might be the worst you've ever had. The hospital care ultimately boils down to hospital administration. VA hospitals are honestly no different. They just have different patients, but administration is administration.
    And when administrators of hospitals are found at fault, they're usually deep fried, or toast, as they should be. This sure is an embarrassment for Shinseki, I'll bet he sends a few idiots for par boiling.

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    Re: Should us Veterans have any faith in the VA anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    And when administrators of hospitals are found at fault, they're usually deep fried, or toast, as they should be. This sure is an embarrassment for Shinseki, I'll bet he sends a few idiots for par boiling.
    Exactly. If hospital administrators don't know what's going on in their own hospitals, it's their own damn fault. It's like restaurant owners being oblivious to what happens in their kitchens.

    It is the administrators job to know what's going on in his or her hospital. If they don't know, they don't deserve to be there.
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