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Thread: A question for the AGW crowd

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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AC is the single biggest energy user in your home per KWH. Just a small room AC unit uses 1000 watts while a central air system uses between 2000 and 5000 watts.This huge energy consumption is for nothing but comfort and would be very easy to cut out of your life if you really think we are warming the planet with our energy use. When I was a kid AC was very rare and nearly all homes and businesses used fans and opened windows. On really hot days in school we would hold class outside under a shade tree. Anyway I have to wonder how many people in here crying about melting ice and rising sea levels use AC.


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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    [QUOTE=Moot;1063304199]Just 90 companies caused two-thirds of man-made global warming emissions | Environment | The Guardian



    So you are off the hook huh, live it up and use all the fossil fuel you want as you whine about AGW. You must love Algore and the way he uses fossil fuel.

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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AC is the single biggest energy user in your home per KWH. Just a small room AC unit uses 1000 watts while a central air system uses between 2000 and 5000 watts.This huge energy consumption is for nothing but comfort and would be very easy to cut out of your life if you really think we are warming the planet with our energy use. When I was a kid AC was very rare and nearly all homes and businesses used fans and opened windows. On really hot days in school we would hold class outside under a shade tree. Anyway I have to wonder how many people in here crying about melting ice and rising sea levels use AC.


    EDIT: gredy means greedy and mmade means made My key board is fookin up. ASUS sucks!
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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Like whenever it's hot.
    If it's hot to the point where opening windows doesn't keep the temperature moderate in the household, then yeah.
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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
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    Only a person who knows he talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk would consider this a bait thread. Truth has a way of hurting.

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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AC is the single biggest energy user in your home per KWH. Just a small room AC unit uses 1000 watts while a central air system uses between 2000 and 5000 watts.This huge energy consumption is for nothing but comfort and would be very easy to cut out of your life if you really think we are warming the planet with our energy use. When I was a kid AC was very rare and nearly all homes and businesses used fans and opened windows. On really hot days in school we would hold class outside under a shade tree. Anyway I have to wonder how many people in here crying about melting ice and rising sea levels use AC.


    EDIT: gredy means greedy and mmade means made My key board is fookin up. ASUS sucks!
    Don't get me started about air conditioning! Since they perfected a.c. (in the sixties sometime, I guess) millions of Americans have moved to places where there is no fresh water. Now personally, I wouldn't camp overnight somewhere where there was no water, but millions of well-off people live in Arizona, New Mexico, California, wherever, and water has to be piped hundreds of miles to them. These are people who are used to the government looking after their interests- what will they want done when their golf courses turn brown and their swimming pools dry up?
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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Only a person who knows he talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk would consider this a bait thread. Truth has a way of hurting.
    Benghazi!! Benghazi...
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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    AC is the single biggest energy user in your home per KWH. Just a small room AC unit uses 1000 watts while a central air system uses between 2000 and 5000 watts.This huge energy consumption is for nothing but comfort and would be very easy to cut out of your life if you really think we are warming the planet with our energy use. When I was a kid AC was very rare and nearly all homes and businesses used fans and opened windows. On really hot days in school we would hold class outside under a shade tree. Anyway I have to wonder how many people in here crying about melting ice and rising sea levels use AC.


    EDIT: gredy means greedy and mmade means made My key board is fookin up. ASUS sucks!
    Something like a swamp cooler is infinitely less costly, though not always practical. I think everybody should explore every possible alternative before resorting to an AC.

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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    I believe in climate change, and I believe that human actions are a driving force of that change.

    Nevertheless, yes, I use air conditioning. I disagree with the notion that AC is for comfort in my particular case. My body can't regulate temperature very well anymore after I had a heat stroke. So, in the summertime, because there is work to be done, I need the rapid cooling of an AC for self-preservation.

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    Re: A question for the AGW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well that's a good point. My sister who's now 62 and her husband finally broke down and installed central AC a year ago after 40 years of marriage. Growing up I had one of those small above ground pools - no AC. Though I must admit I do like AC and would not trade it in ... but then again, I have no problem with the amount of energy needed and I try not to abuse it and use it only on the hottest muggiest of days. Frankly, the ice sheets can melt and the oceans rise since if, today, every American stopped driving a car, stopped using AC, stopped using Jets to fly, stopped burning coal, wood and otherwise cut their carbon emissions by 90% across the board, India, China and the rest of the world would continue to make up the difference and continue increasing carbon emissions as would other emerging countries. If NJ gets too hot, I'll emigrate to Nova Scotia or move to northern Maine, which I hear is beautiful, less crowded and real estate is quite reasonable.
    My understanding of the overall "carbon emissions" picture is that the USA and a good portion of Europe have been doing most of the emitting for years now, and only recently have they started cutting back slightly via regulations - whereas countries like China are starting to industrialize more, which means their emissions are rising to fill the void...

    I myself have spent the last 6 years or so working in an air-conditioned environment, so I've become accustomed to having AC...not sure I could deal without it on really hot days...

    Of course the AC where I work is more for the computer equipment than my comfort...
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