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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    They would never choose to back someone like Mitt Romney, Bob Dole or John McCain.

    The GOP "establishment" should get out of the way and let all of the contenders fend for themselves during the GOP primary process. Wasting resources to encourage picking the future underfunded loser in the general race is simply stupid. If the GOP establishment candidate needs help just to win the GOP primary then they are very unlikely to win in the general election anyway.
    : What is the criteria that determines who the GOP establishment will back? That remains a puzzle to me and many other people!

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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : What is the criteria that determines who the GOP establishment will back? That remains a puzzle to me and many other people!

    Greetings, ttwtt78640.
    The keyword here is "establishment". The GOP establishment is losing the ability to say that they favor "small gov't" as they allow the huge federal nanny state to grow like a weed. They fear losing control to the Tea "party" rogues who might actually reduce their bloated federal gov't power. Gov't power is a funny thing - it increases only so long as gov't control does.
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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : What is the criteria that determines who the GOP establishment will back? That remains a puzzle to me and many other people!

    Greetings, ttwtt78640.


    Money and appeal Lady P......and at least the Basics of Republican Ideology. One thing is for certain the Establishment will not be backing Santorum. Who will just cause more problems than good. IMO that is.

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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Are you talking about the official party? Are you talking about the individual delegates at the convention?

    No. In the first scenario. The official party should only back the person that secures the nomination.

    Yes. In the second scenario. Executive experience is always helpful. Otherwise we are rolling dice and crossing our fingers. If the candidate has been a governor then we know what to expect and what not to expect. I would take it a step further. I would only want a governor that has serve two terms and won by a landslide in his second election.

    I voted yes in the poll because I think I know what you meant.

    I was just being technical with the language.


    Heya VT. Yeah.....I could have been a bit more precise on it. But that would be the gist of it. Since no other can be prevented from running.

    Still we do have quite a few Governors running this time out too.

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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' JD. Looking at things realistically. I think we can now consider Rubio.....out of the Running. He needs to hold that Senator seat. But.....uh oh, and I just got word myself along with the DB. Jeb Bush is going to make the Dash. Rubio and Jeb Bush have made a deal. Rubio will stay out and Take on Wassermann Schultz.....who thinks she can move up to Senator. Now that is a scary thought.

    Dammit.....another Bush run!!!!!


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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    I am not a republican so it is far from my place to tell them how to run their party. I will however toss in my observations: to me, a party should pick the best candidate with a reasonable shot at winning. Artificially limiting that pool of potential candidates also limits the possibility of an exception candidate. If the DNC did something like what is suggested here I would be pissed. What would happen in the best candidate was not a governor, and because of a stupid rule does not have chance to run?

    This is not to say that being a governor is not good experience relevant to being president. It clearly is. But that should be weighed against other factors. Pick the candidate with the best qualifications overall.
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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    If Jeb is the nominee, I can safely say that the GOP will loose the election. By now everyone knows the Bush family enough to know that they are good and honorable people, who also are big government republicans. Conservative rhetoric and moderate to liberal governance with good foreign policy skills and a lot of inside ball and cronyism. This just isn't going to cut it this time, tea party folks are done with that type of governance. Jeb will get less votes than Romney. Go Ben

    Well with Paul and Cruz there.....they will be taking up most of the Tea Party votes. I doubt any of the others will carry as many as they will.

    Still one can see where this is going to come to a head.....with the likes of Santorum Bumping heads with Cruz and Paul.

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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The GOP is having quite a few people thinking about running for the Presidency.....and the list keeps growing with people throwing their name out there.
    So far those that have given word are, as follows. (which they are not in any order of who is polling or currently on top.)

    1. Christie
    2. Paul
    3. Jindal
    4. Perry
    5. Santorum
    6. Bush
    7. West
    8. Pence
    9. Carson

    10. Cruz
    11. Rubio
    12. Huntsman


    Even with the limiting of the Debates. Advertising and the MS Media is looking for a field day to catch the GOP up, and with the gotcha moments.

    We have some popular figures here with Ego's to match. We have some that have never governed. So the question is.....should the RNC/GOP establishment only back those that have been Governors and know what it is like to govern a State, take care of budgets, and can get people to back to work, and have the record or working with the Demos, even if they weren't in control of anything.....or was?
    I'm not big on the elitist approach to choosing candidates - I see it far too much here in Canada where parties choose candidates and often avoid our equivalent of primaries thinking they know best. It just turns off average voters and makes enemies.

    Everyone who has the desire and the qualifications to be President should have the opportunity to put themselves on the line. It will take no time for things to shake out and the true contenders to rise to the top. To suggest only current and/or ex-governors need apply would be to suggest that Sarah Palin is acceptable yet Rand Paul is not.
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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    I think it should be mandetory for a person who runs for the highest office in the country to have had at least one full term as governor or 2 terms as a senator.

    Or a workrecord of working in high office for a considerable amount of time.

    I would never give my vote to some upstart, no matter how nice the promisses may sound.

    Someone should show that they have expirience and can be trusted with the job.

    Which is why I was very suspicious of Obama in 2008.
    Except that eliminates many good candidates....
    Best way to get better candidates is public funding of campaigns.

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    Re: Should the RNC/GOP only back Governors running for the Presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well with Paul and Cruz there.....they will be taking up most of the Tea Party votes. I doubt any of the others will carry as many as they will.

    Still one can see where this is going to come to a head.....with the likes of Santorum Bumping heads with Cruz and Paul.
    If the more conservative folks beat each other up and we end up with a Bush or Christie Nomination, we are doomed again. Ben Carson is good middle ground.
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