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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    SWAT teams should not be breaking down people's doors at 4AM to arrest one person over a drug charge. And then discovering that they've broken into the wrong house and threatened to kill an innocent family. And sometimes they even kill members of that innocent family.

    Police shouldn't be attacking American citizens' homes like it was Osama Bin Ladin's compound.
    No drugs found in raid that claimed the life of Texas police officer

    This did just happen in a no knock 5AM raid of the wrong house...
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Making another silly personal attack on me
    All I'm hearing from you regarding the worst aspects and trends in government is: "EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!!!"
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    I don't second guess the need for well-armed police in large population centers like New York City, Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles, etc. But what raises eyebrows is when in a county that has, for example, 11-13,000 people the police have a armored personnel carrier, automatic weapons w/ military upgrades and other military quality gear. That trend is happening all across the United States in small towns & cities. And while SWAT teams have an invaluable role, their meteoric rise in usage is troubling. It is as though every situation with nails gets a sledgehammer.
    Small towns don't need tanks is my position, let alone APC's and riot/swat gear.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    I don't second guess the need for well-armed police in large population centers like New York City, Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles, etc. But what raises eyebrows is when in a county that has, for example, 11-13,000 people the police have a armored personnel carrier, automatic weapons w/ military upgrades and other military quality gear. That trend is happening all across the United States in small towns & cities. And while SWAT teams have an invaluable role, their meteoric rise in usage is troubling. It is as though every situation with nails gets a sledgehammer.
    And the government would love to limit citizen's access to certain weaponry.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes Maggie - back in the Sixties - some forty to fifty years ago, the left was the anti-law enforcement wing. So what made it switch over the last forty to fifty years?
    Not desiring to play into the whole RIGHT V LEFT bull****.

    But individuals on both sides have distrust for law enforcement in their own way, for their own reasons.

    Its not a RIGHT v LEFT issue.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    I blame the military industrial complex and the government bureaucrat who decided: we have this equipment leftover from Iraq and Afghanistan, let's just sell it to law enforcement.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    I doubt American police who ever encounter this situation:

    They need those weapons because it is South Africa. Start at 2:48.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Not desiring to play into the whole RIGHT V LEFT bull****.

    But individuals on both sides have distrust for law enforcement in their own way, for their own reasons.

    Its not a RIGHT v LEFT issue.
    What seems to be left out here is the job "law enforcement." That's traffic control, drunk drivers, accident investigation, vandalism, security at public events, catching speeders, catching reckless drivers, handling nuisance calls, and Community baby sitting in general. Most rural Police forces do a fine job in these areas, but now the Gov't programs want to arm these groups to the max. What gives? What is the gov't expecting? Who did the POLICE support during Occupy Wall Street?

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    We were just as heavily armed with smaller and less heavily armed police for over a century and few problems.

    Obviously you view point is wrong
    Obviously you are living in a distant past when the times were "much more simple". In this day and age you can be shot with an uzi if you go to a car to give them a speeding ticket, you can be sprayed with countless of bullets from an AK47 when you go to house because of a noise complaint. Gangs, huge spread of heavy weaponry, people with whole stock piles of weapons, extremist groups with no respect for authorities whatsoever, etc. etc. etc.

    The time when a lawman was respected and feared by criminals (except with outlaws) is long gone, gangs in American cities have more weapons and troops than the police officers can troop together.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Obviously you are living in a distant past when the times were "much more simple". In this day and age you can be shot with an uzi if you go to a car to give them a speeding ticket you can be sprayed with countless of bullets from an AK47 when you go to house because of a noise complaint.Gangs, huge spread of heavy weaponry, people with whole stock piles of weapons, extremist groups with no respect for authorities whatsoever, etc. etc. etc.

    The time when a lawman was respected and feared by criminals (except with outlaws) is long gone, gangs in American cities have more weapons and troops than the police officers can troop together.
    Yet somehow violent crime is still on the decline...
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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