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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Using google search does not make you smarter. Cops are civilians, ask any lawyer (or even any cop) and he/she will tell you because a civilian is anyone who isnt military.
    Lawyers on this forum tried to explain this to him, he doesn't care about facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    No they are not civilians they are officers of the government.


    Therein lies the difference.


    True they are not military but you are assuming that there is only military and civilians.

    Source for this misunderstanding?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    I blame the prevalence of guns in American society. The cops are decking themselves out in heavy-duty military gear because they expect (reasonably) to come under fire at some point. This isn't true in Britain, and thus our police aren't kitted out in military gear, but rather wear high-visibility green jackets so people can approach them for help.

    I think this is only a natural instinct -- the police are trying to protect themselves. It's a dangerous job in America, because (incredibly) you let anyone have deadly weapons. I don't begrudge the police their protection, but I do think it's a shame it's come to this.
    Saw thatone coming.

    Doesn't hold water becuase guns in America were just as prevelant a century ago or two centuries ago and the police are only beefing up their firepower in recent times.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Lawyers on this forum tried to explain this to him, he doesn't care about facts.




    Source for this misunderstanding?
    It is a fact not a misunderstanding cops are sworn uniformed officers ( hence the term police OFFICER ) of the government.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    It is a fact not a misunderstanding cops are sworn uniformed officers ( hence the term police OFFICER ) of the government.
    Do you know what the word "source" means?

    Please google the term Civil Authority, which is what the military are taught the police are:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_authority

    "is that apparatus of the state other than its military units that enforces law and order."
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Do you know what the word "source" means?
    Sure now look up the word fact.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Sure now look up the word fact.
    I posted a fact, since you're too lazy to look anything up or provide sources when asked to backup your ignorance.

    Like I thought, you've got nothing. The police are civilians, they're a civil authority.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What militarization of the police?
    There are none so blind than those who refuse to see... Everyone but you is aware of the militarization of this civil authority. But since you're such a statist, I'm sure you're loving it.

    Here's how I view Haymarket in a police state:
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I posted a fact, since you're too lazy to look anything up or provide sources when asked to backup your ignorance.

    Like I thought, you've got nothing. The police are civilians, they're a civil authority.
    You posted no fact tyou posted opinionlook up the difference.

    They are sworn uniformed officers of the law. Not military but not civilian either.

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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Cops are a para-military organization and have been since professionalized. I have no idea what you are talking about with this "like an occupational army" statement.
    The police used to be called Peace Officers their job was to keep the peace. Now they are called Law Enforcement Officers their job is to ostensibly, enforce the law. Except one thing enforcement of the law isn't their job, it's to keep the peace. Law enforcement is the courts and juries domain. The police have become professional thugs for the most part. The only real difference between them and Guido the made man is the badge.
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The police used to be called Peace Officers their job was to keep the peace. Now they are called Law Enforcement Officers their job is to ostensibly, enforce the law. Except one thing enforcement of the law isn't their job, it's to keep the peace. Law enforcement is the courts and juries domain. The police have become professional thugs for the most part. The only real difference between them and Guido the made man is the badge.


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