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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That miracle occurred by DC simply destroying "affordable" (public?) housing, some call it gentrification, and letting (forcing?) the prior DC residents move a few blocks into Prince George's county MD.

    As homicides fall in D.C., rise in Prince George’s, numbers meet in the middle - The Washington Post
    Okay then, OVERALL homicides a year?
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am sorry, but using handguns does not save the life of an officer when he busts down a door to arrest a drug dealer.
    What do you mean?
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Sorry, but I do not share your preference.
    Yeah well, not everyone wants to be free.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    They are there to protect and serve, not get killed due to not being protected enough themselves during their duties. If they have to arrest someone of whom they know that he owns a large stockpile of weapons then it would be foolish to not go in in a manner that protects the police officers and the public.

    As said, in a nation with no large numbers of weapons in a lot of homes I would agree that militarization of the police is a bad thing, sadly in the US it is a necessary thing.
    What part of falling violent crime statistics despite increases in gun ownership confuses you? How is it a necessary thing?
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I've seen this one in my old city too.

    A missing person report which later turns out to be a murdered citizen, is often left reported as a missing person........
    But do you doubt that violent crime is and has been on the decline?

    Because I grew up in DC during the 80's "crack epidemic" then spent the past 10 years in Baltimore and despite how bad it was, I truly see it getting better.
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am sorry, but using handguns does not save the life of an officer when he busts down a door to arrest a drug dealer.
    So what you are saying is "you are correct Arbo, I have not read the actual crime stats, so I will continue down my same old path no matter that reality differs from my opinion".

    Thanks.
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    What do you mean?
    I mean a person with several handguns can be just as dangerous to a police officer as a criminal with a heavier weapon.
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    But do you doubt that violent crime is and has been on the decline?

    Because I grew up in DC during the 80's "crack epidemic" then spent the past 10 years in Baltimore and despite how bad it was, I truly see it getting better.
    Is baltimore 'better'? I lived there early 90's, doing database work as well as working/drinking at hammerjacks. Was a fun city, and generally pretty safe if you avoided the wrong places. Sowebo was pretty bad back then. I was on light street.
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Okay then, OVERALL homicides a year?
    ...Did you read the link? He's actually showing you that the simple act of striking down anti-gun measures didn't lower homicides. Actually, homicides weren't lowered at all. They were moved to a different jurisdiction. If that's how we're going to "lower" crime, we may as well move every trailer park and public housing area in the country to Easter Island and presto, no more crime.
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Okay then, OVERALL homicides a year?
    I'm not sure what you want. Feel free to look it up.

    Prince George's County, MD Crime Map - Showing Crimes in Prince George's County
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    Re: Are Cops Too Militarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So what you are saying is "you are correct Arbo, I have not read the actual crime stats, so I will continue down my same old path no matter that reality differs from my opinion".

    Thanks.
    No, you are wrong, I viewed the statistics before I first answered your question. But in the past I have also, in earlier discussions, compared crime statistics in the US to those in other industrialized countries and the number of murders as well as the insane number of people jailed in the US show that there is a problem with violence in the US. Without these militarized police units the violence might be much worse.

    So please don't thank yourself for things that live only in your mind and not in reality.
    I am with Jake Tapper, you have to be a jerk or an idiot to refer to John McCain as "Songbird John"!!!!!!

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