View Poll Results: Do you think exit exams are fair

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  • Yes, we let kids off too easy, they need to prove themselves

    30 61.22%
  • No, this can devastate and humiliate a teen

    3 6.12%
  • It's only fair if the teen failed other classes

    6 12.24%
  • The teen should still be able to walk just not get a diploma

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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Could you explain how you came to that ridiculous conclusion?
    you said students need a 3 month summer break

    workers should require the same if the vacation was based on need of a break
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    Re: High school exit exams

    No, but not merely because it may humiliate the teen. I think it's a poor means of demonstrating knowledge and requiring it before graduation is foolish. Using it as a means of tracking? Absolutely, but no more.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, but not merely because it may humiliate the teen. I think it's a poor means of demonstrating knowledge and requiring it before graduation is foolish. Using it as a means of tracking? Absolutely, but no more.
    testing for presence of basic knowledge is foolish?

    then why not hand out high school diplomas to every student upon their 18th birthday if there is no intention to require them to graduate with basic knowledge
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    testing for presence of basic knowledge is foolish?

    then why not hand out high school diplomas to every student upon their 18th birthday if there is no intention to require them to graduate with basic knowledge
    Do that in the classroom throughout your quarters and semesters. Do not pass students that should not pass. In our state we do not have such exams as a pre-requisite for graduation. Those exams capture a student's test-taking ability during the duration of the exam, but is severely limited in its usefulness and may hinder where it ought not.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Over the past several years some states have implemented passing exit exams be required for graduation. 26 states have made this a requirement.If a child passes all of their classes, even if they're an A B student, they can't walk or graduate b/c they didn't pass an exit exam. Some of the tests include questions the teachers haven't even covered. Granted you have 4 yrs to pass it, BUT not everyone does well on tests. Do you think this is fair? Do you think it's fair that a child goes to school, passes all his classes, graduates to the next grade each year, yet he/she can't walk all b/c they fail a test?
    nearly 40 years ago when my mom was at high school such exit exams had been applied to every student and many of those students are more knowledgeable individuals than the ones of new generation
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It has been a while since I've been in college, but I don't remember ever being able to pass just by attending classes. How is that philosophy working out for the students of today? Is blaming their own lack of success on their profs helping them graduate? If they can actually get away with drifting through four years, then the system is indeed in big trouble.

    As for the remedial classes, I hear complaints about that all the time. It used to be that you had to know how to read, write, and do math in order to be accepted. Junior colleges were for remedial classes. Why do universities even accept students who aren't prepared?
    The system is in big trouble. And one concern of all, I think, should be the quality of student that the professional schools may soon have to accept and what the consequences of that might be.

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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The system is in big trouble. And one concern of all, I think, should be the quality of student that the professional schools may soon have to accept and what the consequences of that might be.
    I hope you're wrong, but have to admit that I graduated back in '73, and things might have changed a bit since then.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Do that in the classroom throughout your quarters and semesters.
    i failed to note who advocated otherwise. please point such post out for my perusal, as i would want to know why failing students should not be retained

    Do not pass students that should not pass.
    weird. before you insisted we should pass on as diploma wielding graduates those students who could not pass a test at the conclusion of high school

    In our state we do not have such exams as a pre-requisite for graduation.
    not sure where you are on that. do you support the refusal to identify those who meet the employers'/universities' expectations for a high school graduate or would you want your state to know which portion of its high school students are unable to leave school with the basic knowledge base which had been provided

    Those exams capture a student's test-taking ability during the duration of the exam,
    no, that test assesses to what degree the prospective graduate has actually learned what has been presented

    ... but is severely limited in its usefulness and may hinder where it ought not.
    how is it not useful to know which of the prospective graduates have actually acquired an adequate base of knowledge to propel them into careers and/or universities, as well as life

    and how does it hinder anyone other than the students who spent at least four years in high school and are about to leave without being sufficiently educated
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    Re: High school exit exams

    So you have a list of required classes and corresponding final exams yet somehow need an "exit exam" to graduate. What a load of ****. This is just an admission that the teachers or required classes failed

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    Re: High school exit exams

    I wonder how many people ever used algebra as adults. Most don't. I would have been better off apprenticing at 14 with a journeyman, instead of stirring up trouble or figuring how to get away with cutting school/classes. This was late 50's and early 60's. I got my military ged and took classes later on using the G.I. bill when I was more mature. I'm not sure if these comments really fit in this thread, except that problems with a large percentage of boys after they are age 12 or 13 is a major problem in almost all schools, and it takes away from the learning of serious students. I voted other.

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