View Poll Results: Do you think exit exams are fair

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  • Yes, we let kids off too easy, they need to prove themselves

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  • No, this can devastate and humiliate a teen

    3 6.12%
  • It's only fair if the teen failed other classes

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  • The teen should still be able to walk just not get a diploma

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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    My son graduates next week, one of his friends isn't b/c he failed the test and is devastated. I feel bad for him, he's a good kid. I know if they had this requirement when I was in HS I wouldn't have graduated b/c I would have failed the math portion. You have to pass all three, math, science ,and English. I was terrible at math and only made it to pre algebra. If it wasn't division, multiplication, adding and subtracting, it was Greek to me. I just think it's stupid, especially in states where the school systems are the lowest ranking!
    I think it's a reasonable requirement and maybe failing to graduate might be enough motivation for some young people to take their schoolwork a bit more seriously.

    The college my son is going to requires every jr to pass a graduation readiness exam, don't pass, don't get your degree till you do.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    In Australia (New South Wales I can speak for), walking through the front gate is all that is required to go up to the next grade. Actually, they don't even do that. Some students show up in Year 7 then don't come back and they are automatically promoted to the next year. It is all automatic promotion until Year 11-12. Year 12 is a state exam for the HSC (Higher School Certificate). No student has to do any work whatsoever....no class work, no assessment tasks, no homework....until they get to Year 11. As soon as a student turns 17, they can be "asked to leave" if they are trouble makers.

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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    Again, I don't see the point. What do schools who utilize exit exams gain as opposed to schools who don't have exit exams? Sounds like a waste of time and money to me.
    They ensure that you are qualified to have an HS diploma.

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    And teachers need to be paid and keep their jobs based on their results. Not just for one year or one class, but over a period of 5 yrs or so. Raises should be merit-based.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMoonlight View Post
    In Australia (New South Wales I can speak for), walking through the front gate is all that is required to go up to the next grade. Actually, they don't even do that. Some students show up in Year 7 then don't come back and they are automatically promoted to the next year. It is all automatic promotion until Year 11-12. Year 12 is a state exam for the HSC (Higher School Certificate). No student has to do any work whatsoever....no class work, no assessment tasks, no homework....until they get to Year 11. As soon as a student turns 17, they can be "asked to leave" if they are trouble makers.

    No competition, everyone wins and this is the result.
    Kinda sounds like whether the students learn or not (til year 11) depends greatly on whether their parents ensure they do.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    They ensure that you are qualified to have an HS diploma.
    I get that, but I don't see how it's worth the cost. If these exams are as easy as I've heard, then they're not going to change the graduation rate much. You'd have to be a really talented cheater to go pass through all your classes in high school and not have the capabilities to pass the exit exam. (Even then, they would still have to pass other standardized tests earlier in their high school career)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And teachers need to be paid and keep their jobs based on their results. Not just for one year or one class, but over a period of 5 yrs or so. Raises should be merit-based.
    Sadly, it's not that simple for high school education. My sociology teacher's pay reflects the standardized test scores of his students. The thing is that his classes are only available for juniors and seniors and a large majority of students take their standardized tests as 8th graders, freshmen, and sophomores. His pay is influenced by something he has no control over.
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I know walking the stage to get my diploma was a big deal, as it is to most kids and their parents. The kids who do the bare minimum, skip school to sleep and do drugs I have no sympathy for. I do have sympathy for "slow learners", or people who don't pick up things as easily. Like I said I was terrible in math! Here is a sample test from our state of the math version.

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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I wonder when you'd use that skill in a practical situation?
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    Re: High school exit exams

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Over the past several years some states have implemented passing exit exams be required for graduation. 26 states have made this a requirement.If a child passes all of their classes, even if they're an A B student, they can't walk or graduate b/c they didn't pass an exit exam. Some of the tests include questions the teachers haven't even covered. Granted you have 4 yrs to pass it, BUT not everyone does well on tests. Do you think this is fair? Do you think it's fair that a child goes to school, passes all his classes, graduates to the next grade each year, yet he/she can't walk all b/c they fail a test?
    Yes its fair. Very. They have to do the same thing in real life too. If they can't in four years figure out how to pass a test, really are they ever? The schools have to be able to measure via a common and practical way the results of the education they are providing. At least that's what should be the reason.
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