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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    How did we ever get to the point where someone actually believes that the unemployed of society wants to willingly subsist at poverty levels?

    One third stay home, don't work, eat and drink like Royalty, getting free everything, driving nice cars, living in wonderful homes because they don't want to earn a living.

    While the other two thirds, slaves all day, living no better than the evil lazies they support with their hard earned tax dollars.

    It's scary to think that our political leaders, so desperate for votes have literally gotten people to repeat this nonsense.

    It couldn't possibly be that the economy is so rotten because of corporations laying people off and cutting positions to increase profits, where if the gov't didn't provide some basic means, we'd have rampant crime, riots and starvation? We began a Recession 6 years ago that would've rivaled the Great Depression, if not for the gov't bailing out the very, greedy bankers/corporations that created the problem.

    Are there some people abusing the system and non motivated, because of literally making almost as much off gov't assistance as working, of course. There will always be people who abuse the system, and some groups are using it more than others, but I doubt the majority of them want to be there, and are living at the same level as those with better health, opportunities, education, employment and careers.
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    I like being robbed by the government because it makes me less likely to be robbed by an individual. Poverty breeds crime, welfare alleviates poverty. It's not a perfect system, but I don't think there's any better.
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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    I'm Peul.

    Who the heck are Peter and Paul anyway?

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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Considering I've worked since age-16, have never once received anything from the state except a tax refund, I'm definitely Peter being robbed to pay Paul. But...I'd rather have a few points pulled out of my paycheck than see a bunch of Pauls starving on the street. I've been to places with no social safety net. It's ugly what happens there.

    Here, if you see people on the street. They are quite often the fallen who are there because they are addicted to something. If you see people on the street in the wretched places on the planet, it's because they never had anything.

    It still sucks to have things taken from us and given to others without being asked, or having input on what happens to the fruits of our labor.
    If your heart was truly in it, you wouldn't need the state to take the money from you. You'd do it on your own, like I do and give to charity. So save us the feigned appearance of charity that is totally phoney.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I'm Peul.

    Who the heck are Peter and Paul anyway?
    They were two of the twelve Apostles.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Contrary to what self-righteous people like to think, we're all somewhere in between. No one is getting robbed, and no one is lazily living off of the work of others. Instead, we're all trying to collaborate to survive together and live decent lives. There's no nanny state. No one is refusing to contribute and being a parasite on anyone else. There is no Peter, and there is no Paul.
    Keep feeding your mind that total fantasy.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    How did we ever get to the point where someone actually believes that the unemployed of society wants to willingly subsist at poverty levels?

    One third stay home
    , don't work, eat and drink like Royalty, getting free everything, driving nice cars, living in wonderful homes because they don't want to earn a living.

    While the other two thirds, slaves all day, living no better than the evil lazies they support with their hard earned tax dollars.

    It's scary to think that our political leaders, so desperate for votes have literally gotten people to repeat this nonsense.

    It couldn't possibly be that the economy is so rotten because of corporations laying people off and cutting positions to increase profits, where if the gov't didn't provide some basic means, we'd have rampant crime, riots and starvation? We began a Recession 6 years ago that would've rivaled the Great Depression, if not for the gov't bailing out the very, greedy bankers/corporations that created the problem.

    Are there some people abusing the system and non motivated, because of literally making almost as much off gov't assistance as working, of course. There will always be people who abuse the system, and some groups are using it more than others, but I doubt the majority of them want to be there, and are living at the same level as those with better health, opportunities, education, employment and careers.
    where is this place ?

    if the poor is that lucky there who are those morons complaining about poverty

    whats more slaves cant earn enough to distribute to the others.
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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If your heart was truly in it, you wouldn't need the state to take the money from you. You'd do it on your own, like I do and give to charity. So save us the feigned appearance of charity that is totally phoney.
    That's what I pay taxes for. I never understood the "give to charity" crowd. After all, most charities disappear money without giving it to the needy, taking it from you and channeling it to cronies, even more efficiently than the government.

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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That's what I pay taxes for. I never understood the "give to charity" crowd. After all, most charities disappear money without giving it to the needy, taking it from you and channeling it to cronies, even more efficiently than the government.
    That's total bull****, and little of your tax charity makes it to the needy due to the high govt overhead. That is NOT what taxes are for. That's for the lazy, and those who don't care enough to pull their wallets out and brush the cob webs off.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Are you Peter or Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's total bull****, and little of your tax charity makes it to the needy due to the high govt overhead. That is NOT what taxes are for. That's for the lazy, and those who don't care enough to pull their wallets out and brush the cob webs off.
    Nonsense. Charities are typically income machines or outright scams. I'd rather pay taxes. I love my country, not some falsely advertised cause.

    But, hey, feel free to waste your money. Free country and all that.

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