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  • Stirling (racist comments)

    5 12.50%
  • Vick (dog abuser/fighter/killer/torturer)

    33 82.50%
  • Don't know/undecided

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Thread: Sterling vs Vick

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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Stirling makes racist comments in a private conversation and is banned for life from the NBA.

    Vick fights, abuses, tortures, kills dogs and is welcomed back into the NFL.

    Who is worse?
    Sterling is stupid. Vick is evil.
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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't agree with you. If you find the prejudice of an 80+-year-old man more egregious than Michael Vick's conduct in regards to dog fighting, that's your opinion. You are entitled to that opinion...without that opinion being called hypocritical and stupid.

    In your case, regarding your opinion, I would just call it wrong-headed.

    Does anyone have the decency to know what they are talking about before they speak anymore?

    I'm not merely basing my assessment on his PREJUDICE. It's his actual racist behaviors.



    Edited to add: Also, nobody is ENTITLED to have an opinion without having it called hypocritical or stupid. That's some ****ing stupid nonsense right there.

    If someone has a hypocritical or stupid opinion, then they DESERVE to have that stupid hypocritical opinion called stupid and hypocritical. Opinions are not sacred things which can't be judged. Free speech is a bitch, if you share your opinion, you open yourself up to having that opinion judged.

    I've noticed a big movement from people who want to hold stupid opinions yet don't want their stupid opinions called out for being stupid where they pretend that it's a violation of their freedom of speech to have their stupid opinions called out for being stupid.
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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Does anyone have the decency to know what they are talking about before they speak anymore
    Apparently not, Tucker. Thirty people agree with me. Five agree with you. Apparently not.

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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Does anyone have the decency to know what they are talking about before they speak anymore?

    I'm not merely basing my assessment on his PREJUDICE. It's his actual racist behaviors.
    Let me try this. The recipients of his racism, verbal or action, are capable of defending themselves.
    As fas as I know, Vick's victims are not....unless Vick were to fight them on equal level, in the cage.
    One old man against a united front vs dogs fighting until they are maimed or dead, not to mention the bait dogs.

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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Apparently not, Tucker. Thirty people agree with me. Five agree with you. Apparently not.
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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Let me try this. The recipients of his racism, verbal or action, are capable of defending themselves.
    As fas as I know, Vick's victims are not....unless Vick were to fight them on equal level, in the cage.
    One old man against a united front vs dogs fighting until they are maimed or dead, not to mention the bait dogs.
    Are your "victims" able to defend themselves when you spray bug spray on an ant hill or wasp nest?
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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    True story: I've been the only person who believed in evolution in a room full of dozens of people. Apparently, lots of people can believe stupid things and it doesn't make it any less stupid.
    That's another thread, Tucker Case.

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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's another thread, Tucker Case.
    It's a perfect demonstration of why an appeal to popularity is fallacious reasoning.
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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's a perfect demonstration of why an appeal to popularity is fallacious reasoning.
    Only if you believe in evolution, Tucker. If you don't? It's not a perfect demonstration at all.

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    Re: Sterling vs Vick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Because we're discussing the concept of "worse person". He''s a horrible person who ONLY does positive things for personal gain.

    Motive is certainly a factor in determining things. Example: Let's say I kill a man who is about to kill a bunch of children. A simple minded conclusion would be to assume I am a good person because I did this.

    But let's say that I didn't really give a **** about saving the kids, but I actually just wanted to steal the guy's gun. Saving the kids wasn't even in my mind as a reason for doing the action. If that is the case, I'm still a piece of ****. The accidental fact that my actions did good play no role in altering how much of a piece of **** I am.

    Ergo, his reason for the action is of paramount importance.
    The motive doesn't matter. The end result matters.

    If you want to apply motive to things, then we can say Vick gave money to animal charities and donated his time just to placate his critics so he could get back into the league.

    If you look at why somebody does something and discount all the good they do if they don't have 100% altruistic motives, then you will never accept any good that is done in the world.

    Most people give money to charity for the tax break.

    Does that negate the good that is done with that money?

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