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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Was Karl Marx right about capitalism?
    This appears to be a loaded question. Am I right?

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    How bad was capitalism? well the nation of america with 300 million people had I repeat HAD the the greatest economy in the world.

    In a true capitalistic world there would not be a minimum wage, the free market would dictate labor costs, america cannot compete with china's slave wages.

    So Karl Marx can suck the big fat homosexual man until the big fat homosexual man is happy.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    He was wrong in the aggregate... obviously (see Soviet Union)... but he did have some relevant points.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Well if we can judge anything by the history of Russia's economic performance...the answer would be a resounding NO. And since our last two socialists presidents sandwiching GW Bush were total flops...yes Slick Willie Clinton...I believe that verifies the opinion.

    And before you start with Clinton's dot com economy...don't even bother.

    The question wasn't about whether Marx was right about communism or socialism. Was Marx right about capitalism?
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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfromall View Post
    quit giving ernst a confederate soap box to stand on and to hi-jack.

    has nothing to do with the south.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by tralfamadore View Post
    well, history after the founding fathers was much democratic than it was during the first few years. So, i'm not disagreeing with that. It was only around 100 years ago where 50% of the population gained the right to vote. However, i still do not think that negates what the founders understood as democracy (majority rule by the white, landowning class) and what we understand as democracy. One is an extension of the other.

    Saying the u.s. Is not a democracy but a republic is like saying catholics are not monotheists but are christians.
    i can only urge you to read up on republican forms of government

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's an interesting article by George Magnus, former Chief Economist at UBS, the biggest bank in Switzerland



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    Was Karl Marx right about capitalism?
    Nope. Capitalism reigns supreme. It isnt perfect but its better than anything we have come up with so far. The reason for the mass unemployment in Europe is governments spending too much money on entitlements- they are spending money they dont have. Governments with balanced budgets and surpluses (like Australia, Brazil, Norway) are doing pretty well.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    has nothing to do with the south.
    And arguing about democracy/republican form of government has nothing to do with some nut claiming that capitalism has or is going to fail. I mean here is an excellent opportunity to showcase Karl Marx's nutty writings. Like this: "The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution." Then all I need to do to discredit Marx is to point out that Reasoned that capitalism would never actually fail otherwise he wouldnt have devised the communist revolution to make it fail. Marx never established a sustainable social or economical system. All that Marx did was devised a way to topple the society that he lived in. ANd to follow that up he devised a way keep the society that he despised from coming back at the expense of basic human nature.

    But no you are more into promoting your doctrine and forcing us to accept your revisions of American history. As if no one notices that your entire doctrine was identical to that of the Confederates. If you think no one noticed then well... you were mistaken.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Awesome

    A thread of people who have never read Marx
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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    This appears to be a loaded question. Am I right?
    It depends on the answer!

    Dang, I'm good!

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