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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    without a federal statute created by clause 2, you cannot take action against a citizen using clause 1

    the constitution grants congress the power to punish counterfeiting, however if congress creates NO federal statue for counterfeiting the government can do nothing.
    All legal actions are not criminal.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    While the US economy isn't doing so well, many third world economies are doing great, so capitalism as a concept is still validated from what I can tell.

    However, I do foresee the next big crisis in capitalism is how to keep the population employed and their minds off revolution. Folks who are out competed don't simply go away and I think we are going to increasingly find that we need to find something for them to do. Our current solution, dubbed as welfare, doesn't really do all that great in preserving the dignity and pride in those who are being helped and because it underminds their spirits, its harm long term viability for short term gain. I think we are going to have to find a new method which doesn't leave people to starve or too desperate yet strikes a balance with the needs of a greater society. If we can't, we will consume ourselves as a country.

    I am not exactly sure social democracy is the answer or at least some aspects of need to be rethought given the lessons in human nature we have learned over the last fourty years.
    Let the revolution come.

    The crisis is in statism. It fails every time it is tried.

    You want socialism because you may believe you will be better off. You are living under a tyranny and you believe that capitalism has failed. It is socialism that has failed. But you are blind to it because your liberal politicians have told you that all the federal thuggery is for your benefit.

    The middle way is fascist to the core. You and the nation have embraced the twin heresies of Marxism, fascism and socialism.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    Here a link to the Madison citation:

    The Federalist No. 10

    These are the sections relevant to this discussion, all numerals and emphasis added:



    (1) Here it is obvious that by "democracy" Madison means what in modern parlance is termed "oligarchy".

    (2) Here Madison discredits universal suffrage. This and slavery were where he and the rest of the early US leadership fell most short of modern democratic practice and ideals.

    (3ABC) Here it is obvious that Madison used the term "republic" to mean what in modern parlance is termed "democracy".

    Ergo Madison might be termed hostile to what we term democracy on the basis of his views on suffrage, but not on the basis of his views on the core democratic principle of elective representation. Madison supported democratic government.
    That was amazing. Can you also pull a rabbit out of your hat?
    Democracy bad. Representative republic good.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No one has seen capitalism. It is only an abstraction.
    This simply shows the weakness of the liberal mind.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That was amazing. Can you also pull a rabbit out of your hat?
    Democracy bad. Representative republic good.
    There is nothing amazing about accurate reading comprehension and accurate critical thinking. Try them sometime.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This simply shows the weakness of the liberal mind.
    No, it is a statement of fact.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by mildsteel View Post
    all legal actions are not criminal.
    illegal?

    did not say it was, but slavery is criminal

    you have to make a law, if you going to be able to make something illegal, and build a case against a citizen

    federal law does that, constitutional law does not.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    There is nothing amazing about accurate reading comprehension and accurate critical thinking. Try them sometime.
    Physician, heal thyself.

    If you are not mistaken then you are a liar. It is clear that you are not claiming error.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No, it is a statement of fact.
    More evidence of a weak mind...

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    More evidence of a weak mind...
    Evidence that you don't have anything substantial so say.

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