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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You missed the part about not being able to claim slaves as property. That is a direct result of the 13th amendment.
    without federal law......no one can take action.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    without federal law......no one can take action.
    The action of the 13th amendment is that as soon as someone sets foot on US territory, they cannot claim that another human being is their property.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Marxism is a completely legitimate critique of capitalism. It is not, however, a remedy to the problem. People seem to confuse Marxism, the critique of capitalism, and Communism, a proactive remedy proposed as a solution to the problems noted in Marxist critiques.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The action of the 13th amendment is that as soon as someone sets foot on US territory, they cannot claim that another human being is their property.
    you cannot do anything to anyone, unless it is by federal law, constitutional law does not give government authority to arrest and try a citizen, it must be federal law.

    constitutional law does not apply to citizens.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you cannot do anything to anyone, unless it is by federal law, constitutional law does not give government authority to arrest and try a citizen, it must be federal law.

    constitutional law does not apply to citizens.
    Again, the application of the 13th ammendment to citizens is that it immediately takes away their ability to claim that someone else is their slave on American soil.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I think his writings are a product of his time. The exploitation is still there. Today your are labeled a communist for wanting a 3% performance raise. The labor laws are better now in the UK and USA though.
    You may want anything you wish. You are a statist if you demand that politicians coerce your company into firing you over your idiotic belief that you are worth 3% more. And statists tend to be Marxists no matter how much they try to hide it.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    Spoken like a true SS blood hound.

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    Regulation is our friend. We need more regulation, not less.
    Spoken like a true statist.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    When I was young I was brainwashed to believe that what Marx put forward was the most evil thing on the planet. I was very surprised when I got older and started to learn about it a bit more. I find that the Marxist take on capitalism is for the most part accurate.
    Perhaps you are unfamiliar with capitalism.
    Crony capitalism is not capitalism. It is statism.
    Massive regulations that damage our souls is not capitalism. It is statism.
    If you are younger than 50 you might not have ever seen capitalism.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Perhaps you are unfamiliar with capitalism.
    Crony capitalism is not capitalism. It is statism.
    Massive regulations that damage our souls is not capitalism. It is statism.
    If you are younger than 50 you might not have ever seen capitalism.
    No one has seen capitalism. It is only an abstraction.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Again, the application of the 13th ammendment to citizens is that it immediately takes away their ability to claim that someone else is their slave on American soil.
    without a federal statute created by clause 2, you cannot take action against a citizen using clause 1

    the constitution grants congress the power to punish counterfeiting, however if congress creates NO federal statue for counterfeiting the government can do nothing.

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