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Would you want a gun in this situation?

Would you want a gun in this situation?


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I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

The scenario:
It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?
 
I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

The scenario:
It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?

I do not live in fear of unlikely events happening.
 
I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

The scenario:
It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?


The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?


This scenario IS the reason I have a weapon in the first place.
 
I am going to get a gun because they're fun, self defense really is for me, the SECONDARY reason to get a gun.
 
I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

The scenario:
It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?

Two can play this game.

What say you to this similarly unlikely and absurd situation:

Thieves break in to steal your TV, and you go downstairs to check it out. As is almost always the case, the thieves only want your stuff and to leave. They threaten you to go away, and they start to make good their escape.

Suddenly you dive for your gun cabinet near your TV, throw it open, and one of the thieves, upon realising his life is in mortal danger because some moron intends to shoot him, hits you over the head with his crowbar.

At what point do you wish you had not had any guns in the house?
 
I do not live in fear of unlikely events happening.

Neither do I, nor do most people. Some however choose to be prepared. So if it happened to you, you wouldn't want one?

Two can play this game.

What say you to this similarly unlikely and absurd situation:

Thieves break in to steal your TV, and you go downstairs to check it out. As is almost always the case, the thieves only want your stuff and to leave. They threaten you to go away, and they start to make good their escape.

Suddenly you dive for your gun cabinet near your TV, throw it open, and one of the thieves, upon realising his life is in mortal danger because some moron intends to shoot him, hits you over the head with his crowbar.

At what point do you wish you had not had any guns in the house?

I'm glad you had the balls to admit that you would sacrifice your family's safety so that you could remain logically consistent. I certainly don't have that kind of conviction to any of my beliefs.

To answer your questions:
1) It's not absurd, it happens all the time. It must be absurd because it's never personally happened to you, right?
2) If someone breaks into your house, you're not supposed to go looking for them. That gives them the upper hand and I don't do that.
3) I don't have a gun cabinet. A gun is useless in a cabinet.
4) No, at no point during that scenario would I ever wish I was unarmed.
 
Neither do I, nor do most people. Some however choose to be prepared. So if it happened to you, you wouldn't want one?

I don't prepare for getting hit by lightning either. I don't prepare for lots of unlikely events. You don't either. No one does. At least be honest.
 
I don't prepare for getting hit by lightning either. I don't prepare for lots of unlikely events. You don't either. No one does. At least be honest.

That wasn't the question. The question was if it happened to you, would you want one? I don't stand in open fields in storms, which greatly reduces my risk of dying from a lightning strike. Similarly, I would want to have a gun in this scenario to greatly reduce the risk of me and my family being harmed.

I actually do know someone who has survived being struck by lightning, and more than one person who has survived a home invasion by being armed. Why are you refusing to address the OP?
 
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Im pro gun, but in this scenario I think a flamethrower would be much better.

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That wasn't the question. The question was if it happened to you, would you want one. If you actually did get hit by lightning would you want to have medical attention or would you turn it down?

I actually do know someone who has survived being struck by lightning, and more than one person who has survived a home invasion by being armed. Why are you refusing to address the OP?

I am addressing the OP, just not in the way you want. I am highlighting the absurdity of your argument.

Oh, and by the way, you know what is more effective than owning a gun for home invasions? Prevention.
 
I do not live in fear of unlikely events happening.

It's not so unlikely, especially if you are vulnerable, such as a single woman. Why would I NOT want to take precautions?
 
I am addressing the OP, just not in the way you want. I am highlighting the absurdity of your argument.

Oh, and by the way, you know what is more effective than owning a gun for home invasions? Prevention.

No, you didn't address the OP in any way, shape or form.

The OP was a poll asking if you found yourself in the situation would you want a gun?

You then went on and refused to answer the question and proclaimed that it's so unlikely to happen that you can't be bothered to consider what you would do should it occur. In the mean time, this happens to families every single day.

It's not so unlikely, especially if you are vulnerable, such as a single woman. Why would I NOT want to take precautions?

It's not even about precautions, it's about what would you want if it happened to you? I would expect every human being in the process of being raped to want to defend him or herself in any way possible. Those who say they wouldn't are being dishonest. (Not saying you are)
 
I am addressing the OP, just not in the way you want. I am highlighting the absurdity of your argument.

Oh, and by the way, you know what is more effective than owning a gun for home invasions? Prevention.

:confused: Just how are you going to prevent someone from trying to break into your home? ADT? That doesn't stop criminals that want to break into your home, despite what the commercials say. Locked doors? There isn't a lock that exists that cannot be picked. If someone really wants to break into your home they are going to.

And no, you're not addressing the OP. It asked a very specific question regarding a very specific, and real, situation that does happen...and far more than lightening striking individuals at that...one which you have not answered yet.
 
No, you didn't address the OP in any way, shape or form.

The OP was a poll asking if you found yourself in the situation would you want a gun?

You then went on and refused to answer the question and proclaimed that it's so unlikely to happen that you can't be bothered to consider what you would do should it occur. In the mean time, this happens to families every single day.

People are struck by lightning every day too. I don't live in fear of that happening either.
 
People are struck by lightning every day too. I don't live in fear of that happening either.

Nor does anyone here live in fear of home invasions. The OP posed an extremely simple, straightforward question and you refused to answer because it inevitably will point out the glaring inconsistency in your logic.

So there is absolute no scenario on the planet where you would want a gun to defend yourself?
 
:confused: Just how are you going to prevent someone from trying to break into your home? ADT? That doesn't stop criminals that want to break into your home, despite what the commercials say. Locked doors? There isn't a lock that exists that cannot be picked. If someone really wants to break into your home they are going to.

And no, you're not addressing the OP. It asked a very specific question regarding a very specific, and real, situation that does happen...and far more than lightening striking individuals at that...one which you have not answered yet.

Do you know how much a timer on a light costs? While you cannot drop the chance to zero, you can significantly reduce the chance.

And yes I am addressing the OP. I am not answering his question, but every single post has been on the very topic he started.
 
Nor does anyone here live in fear of home invasions. The OP posed an extremely simple, straightforward question and you refused to answer because it inevitably will point out the glaring inconsistency in your logic.

So there is absolute no scenario on the planet where you would want a gun to defend yourself?

Oh ffs, your whole premise is fear mongering...
 
It's easy to create a "what if" scenario.

I'm not an "anti-gunner".

But having a gun isn't a fool-proof and definitive absolute when it comes to day-to-day survival and happiness.

Someone who doesn't want a gun can have an alarm system that sounds loud sirens, flashes lights, and immediately calls 911 for them when intruders break into their house. They could have a large dog, or multiple dogs for protection. A cell phone to call 911 immediately. Pepper spray. Tasers.

I can "what if" your scenario into:

Suppose, even if you have fully locked and loaded automatic weapons on your night stand 12 inches from your head, the "murderer" wakes you up by sticking the barrel of his 50 caliber desert eagle directly into your mouth before you can even clear your vision enough to know what's going on?

What good will your gun do you if the murderous intruder wakes you by kicking the bed while holding your daughter by the hair with a gun pointed right up under her chin?

What if the murderous intruder enters your house with no weapons, but then finds yours right nest to your bed while you're still asleep?

Seriously, people can play "what if" games until the cows come home.

Owning a gun does not make you immune to violence and or misfortune.

Not owning a gun doesn't make you irresponsible, unloving, uncaring, or ignorant.
 
It's easy to create a "what if" scenario.

I'm not an "anti-gunner".

But having a gun isn't a fool-proof and definitive absolute when it comes to day-to-day survival and happiness.

Someone who doesn't want a gun can have an alarm system that sounds loud sirens, flashes lights, and immediately calls 911 for them when intruders break into their house. They could have a large dog, or multiple dogs for protection. A cell phone to call 911 immediately. Pepper spray. Tasers.

I can "what if" your scenario into:

Suppose, even if you have fully locked and loaded automatic weapons on your night stand 12 inches from your head, the "murderer" wakes you up by sticking the barrel of his 50 caliber desert eagle directly into your mouth before you can even clear your vision enough to know what's going on?

What good will your gun do you if the murderous intruder wakes you by kicking the bed while holding your daughter by the hair with a gun pointed right up under her chin?

What if the murderous intruder enters your house with no weapons, but then finds yours right nest to your bed while you're still asleep?

Seriously, people can play "what if" games until the cows come home.

Owning a gun does not make you immune to violence and or misfortune.

Not owning a gun doesn't make you irresponsible, unloving, uncaring, or ignorant.

You can certainly play what-if until the cows come home, but that's not really the point of the thread. The point of the thread was to probe anti-gunners to see if there's any scenario where they would want a gun.

I know you said you're not anti-gun, but is there any single scenario where you'd want a gun to defend yourself?

Oh ffs, your whole premise is fear mongering...

Now you're not answering my second question? Aww, poor thing. The mental gymnastics you have to go through to avoid answering two simple questions is rather pathetic.
 
Now you're not answering my second question? Aww, poor thing. The mental gymnastics you have to go through to avoid answering two simple questions is rather pathetic.

I am not answering it in the way you want. You asked a stupid question. I pointed that out. Deal with it.
 
Do you know how much a timer on a light costs? While you cannot drop the chance to zero, you can significantly reduce the chance.

You really think a timed light is going to stop someone? :lamo

And yes I am addressing the OP. I am not answering his question, but every single post has been on the very topic he started.

Then answer the question. It's a real easy question to answer..."Yes" or "No". Nothing else needs to be said. And everything else is side stepping.
 
It's easy to create a "what if" scenario.

I'm not an "anti-gunner".

But having a gun isn't a fool-proof and definitive absolute when it comes to day-to-day survival and happiness.

Someone who doesn't want a gun can have an alarm system that sounds loud sirens, flashes lights, and immediately calls 911 for them when intruders break into their house. They could have a large dog, or multiple dogs for protection. A cell phone to call 911 immediately. Pepper spray. Tasers.

I can "what if" your scenario into:

Suppose, even if you have fully locked and loaded automatic weapons on your night stand 12 inches from your head, the "murderer" wakes you up by sticking the barrel of his 50 caliber desert eagle directly into your mouth before you can even clear your vision enough to know what's going on?

What good will your gun do you if the murderous intruder wakes you by kicking the bed while holding your daughter by the hair with a gun pointed right up under her chin?

What if the murderous intruder enters your house with no weapons, but then finds yours right nest to your bed while you're still asleep?

Seriously, people can play "what if" games until the cows come home.

Owning a gun does not make you immune to violence and or misfortune.

Not owning a gun doesn't make you irresponsible, unloving, uncaring, or ignorant.

True, but there could certainly be occasions when having a gun would be most convenient. Look at what happened in Connecticut with the doctor and his family a few years ago? I think if one of them had a gun, they could have had an opportunity to get to it and use it perhaps, given the amount of time they were held captive. :shrug:
 
You really think a timed light is going to stop someone? :lamo



Then answer the question. It's a real easy question to answer..."Yes" or "No". Nothing else needs to be said. And everything else is side stepping.

I always think it's cute when people who have never been in any real danger condemn people for defending their lives and the lives of their family.
 
You really think a timed light is going to stop someone? :lamo

Oh for gods sake, did I ****ing say that? No, I did not. To reduce the chance of burglary, there are a number of things you can do. A light on is just one. I did not realize this was complex.


Then answer the question. It's a real easy question to answer..."Yes" or "No". Nothing else needs to be said. And everything else is side stepping.

What if the answer is not yes or no? Have you stopped beating you wife? Yes or no. Why won't you answer the question?

Seriously, this is not rocket surgery...
 
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