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  • I am anti-gun, and I would want a gun.

    2 2.94%
  • I am anti-gun, and I wouldn't want a gun.

    6 8.82%
  • I am pro-gun, and I would want a gun.

    58 85.29%
  • I am pro-gun, and I wouldn't want a gun.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    it makes one a participant. it makes one someone who joined in a much larger group effort. it makes one part of 55.
    sorry no... you see, Madison was laying the fountain of our Constitution by HIMSELF, months before the convention.

    Madison took the notes to the convention knowing the the interpretation of the constitution, as its clauses were being proposed, debated.... finally agreed on.

    Madison along with a hand full of men, on the committee of style, put the Constitution together in its current form, even making some changes.

    then Madison along with 2 others, wrote the federalist which explained the document and its clauses.

    Madison then throughout his life continued to write and speak about the constitution, many people wrote to Madison wanting information on it, meaning his interpretation, since he is considered the father of it.....a title he did not like.

    most of the founders, did little or no work on the constitution after they left the convention, Madison though created many pieces of work, and was even sought up to his final few years to clarify the document even more...people recognized him as the utmost authority on it.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That was not what was happening in this study but it makes sense that you would be in denial since you believe you couldn't live without a gun.
    anti gunners tend to believe incredibly biased studies that fly in the face of common sense in order to bolster their fear of guns.



    how many of those people were legal gun owners versus those engaged in criminal activities which incredibly increases their chances of being killed or injured by other armed criminals

    80% of all murder victims as well as murderers are people with criminal records



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    I have to say, the ratio of pro-gun to "anti-gun" (a misnomer IMO) cracks me up. You're obviously not going to get the answers your looking for from this type of poll; all you're doing is making it obvious that the vast majority of DP posters, in this subform in particular, are pro-gun.

    I've lived, worked and traveled in some fairly dangerous places. I've never felt like owning a gun would make me safer, including times when people have tried to mug me. It is both inaccurate and insulting to suggest that people who favor gun control have never had to face a dangerous or criminal situation.

    Your scenario makes it fairly apparent that the homeowner will be hopelessly outgunned. You're not depicting a situation where you can rationally defend yourself, you're depicting one where the homeowner dies in a futile blaze of glory.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    I have to say, the ratio of pro-gun to "anti-gun" (a misnomer IMO) cracks me up. You're obviously not going to get the answers your looking for from this type of poll; all you're doing is making it obvious that the vast majority of DP posters, in this subform in particular, are pro-gun.

    I've lived, worked and traveled in some fairly dangerous places. I've never felt like owning a gun would make me safer, including times when people have tried to mug me. It is both inaccurate and insulting to suggest that people who favor gun control have never had to face a dangerous or criminal situation.

    Your scenario makes it fairly apparent that the homeowner will be hopelessly outgunned. You're not depicting a situation where you can rationally defend yourself, you're depicting one where the homeowner dies in a futile blaze of glory.
    those who don't want to carry, cannot carry or are afraid of carrying are not necessarily anti gun

    those who want to prevent others from carrying are anti gun and may do so because

    1) they project their fear of guns onto others

    2) they are incompetent with guns and figure others will be

    3) they are cowards and outsource their self defense to the government and guns remind them of their timidity

    4) they engage in activities that increase their chances of being justifiably shot

    5) they are "opposed to violence" and think banning CCW will decrease violence or at least will satisfy their sense of self worth by allowing them to say they have DONE SOMETHING



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those who don't want to carry, cannot carry or are afraid of carrying are not necessarily anti gun
    Please, spare us your completely baseless pseudo-psychology.

    The OP is asking whether the potential threat of a home invasion by multiple armed individuals would make people want a gun. I'm pro-gun control, and that doesn't change because of a slightly ludicrous hypothetical, just as it hasn't changed when I've been threatened or confronted with violence in my own life.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

    The scenario:
    It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

    The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?
    I don't know what I'd do/want in that situation. I don't have any kind of weapon available at the moment, but I suppose I could throw dirty clothes at them.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Please, spare us your completely baseless pseudo-psychology.

    The OP is asking whether the potential threat of a home invasion by multiple armed individuals would make people want a gun. I'm pro-gun control, and that doesn't change because of a slightly ludicrous hypothetical, just as it hasn't changed when I've been threatened or confronted with violence in my own life.
    hardly baseless. as you claiming that those who don't carry because they don't want to, are afraid to, or cannot carry ARE ANTI GUN?

    what sort of gun control do you want? lets examine your position



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry no... you see, Madison was laying the fountain of our Constitution by HIMSELF, months before the convention.

    Madison took the notes to the convention knowing the the interpretation of the constitution, as its clauses were being proposed, debated.... finally agreed on.

    Madison along with a hand full of men, on the committee of style, put the Constitution together in its current form, even making some changes.

    then Madison along with 2 others, wrote the federalist which explained the document and its clauses.

    Madison then throughout his life continued to write and speak about the constitution, many people wrote to Madison wanting information on it, meaning his interpretation, since he is considered the father of it.....a title he did not like.

    most of the founders, did little or no work on the constitution after they left the convention, Madison though created many pieces of work, and was even sought up to his final few years to clarify the document even more...people recognized him as the utmost authority on it.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    the opinion of one man is irrelevant next to the document itself.

    only you would think james madsion is irrleavent, when it comes to the constutution.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Please, spare us your completely baseless pseudo-psychology.

    The OP is asking whether the potential threat of a home invasion by multiple armed individuals would make people want a gun. I'm pro-gun control, and that doesn't change because of a slightly ludicrous hypothetical, just as it hasn't changed when I've been threatened or confronted with violence in my own life.
    The scenario is arbitrary, but nevertheless, if you knew they were there to rape your wife and daughter would you want to do everything in your power to stop it? Or would you prefer to hide in a backroom and hope they don't come looking for you when they're done with them?

    The point is, people who want to ban guns because "they'll statistically never use them" are forgetting about the people who do need them every single day to defend their lives and the lives of their family. Do you have a problem with that?
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