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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

    The scenario:
    It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

    The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?
    Of course I would, and is precisely the reason I own a gun. However I don't think that I need a 5.56x45mm (or higher) semi-auto rifle with a 30 round clip to defend my house. I think that can be done perhaps more effectively with a pistol or even a shotgun.

    I will digress though, I did enjoy shooting one at a gun range once, but I just don't see the practical purpose for owning one otherwise.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No, I don't believe in "what ifs" when things go south. Either you meet force with force or you will lose. If that is "auto pilot" then I have done my job.
    Since many people retreat from force successfully (whether they are armed or not), you are factually incorrect.

    It is just your preference in reaction.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Since many people retreat from force successfully (whether they are armed or not), you are factually incorrect.

    It is just your preference in reaction.
    I would like to see that proven in relation to the OP. Not out on the street where escape or driving away is more possible, but in a home where even if you get out all you may be doing is running to a fenced yard. Or from a home with no rear ward doors, like mine.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Yes there are different situations. We arent going to sit here and cover every possible living scenario.

    If you have a group of armed men in your home and you open fire, odds are you are going to die no matter how many Van Damme movies you've seen. If you have a family in that home, they are now likely to be killed too.

    The smartest, and safest thing to do in the scenario described in the OP where a group of armed men are in your home is to leave with your family. If that doesn't work; hide. If you can't hide, can't escape and are discovered, then as a last resort I can see using force. But turning a robbery into your families murder so you can be macho or some retarded mentality like that is just dumb.
    So...then do you have PLANS for all that with your family? Are they prepared for robbery/intruders in the home?

    I never said anyone had to have a gun, however it boggles the mind that many people do not have basic plans for safety, like they do with fire drills/plans. Defense does not require guns.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I would like to see that proven in relation to the OP. Not out on the street where escape or driving away is more possible, but in a home where even if you get out all you may be doing is running to a fenced yard. Or from a home with no rear ward doors, like mine.
    I dont have to prove that since it wasnt my point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I am sure that you can take down a group of armed men by yourself. you are super tough. i am so impressed. Luckily movies have taught us the good guy never misses, the bad guys cant aim, and they all will go down with one shot anywhere in the body and you can take 9 or 10.

    Any serious shooter knows that is BS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I dont have to prove that since it wasnt my point.
    Yet you made it your point to deviate from the OP. If you prepare at all you prepare for the worst case scenario, not what "might" happen. You prepare for what will happen in the worst case.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Turning a robbery into your family being murdered is not defending them. No matter how you spin it. My first responsibility is keeping my family safe.
    There's no 'responsibility' in leaving all the cards in the hands of the intruders. Your choice sounds like 'do nothing and hope for the best.' Kinda like not using birth control.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yet you made it your point to deviate from the OP. If you prepare at all you prepare for the worst case scenario, not what "might" happen. You prepare for what will happen in the worst case.
    If you think you cant prepare to retreat AND to fight, that is very odd. That's why each situation is different and needs to be handled as such. But again, if *I can* retreat safely, I will. That is why I have a safe room in my house, my bedroom, and THEN am fully prepared to defend it if necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Leaving is much wiser. Avoiding them and losing your possessions is much wiser.


    Yes, this is true. One is not always granted these options however.

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