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  • I am anti-gun, and I would want a gun.

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  • I am anti-gun, and I wouldn't want a gun.

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  • I am pro-gun, and I would want a gun.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I suspect you are right on the defensive use of guns compared to suicide but lets all admit that the statistics are hardly hard and fast and the exact numbers are up for debate.

    How Often Do We Use Guns in Self-Defense? - Businessweek

    As far as Japan goes, using their suicide numbers (which you did not provide or refer to) are very very misleading since the cultural view of suicide is radically different than the same practice in the USA and guns play little role in the situation either way. The last time I checked, Japan was barely in the top ten of suicide rates - which is still high just the same. But the existence or non existence of guns in their culture plays no role in that either way.
    I prefer people kill themselves with a gun rather than say jump out of buildings, or worse yet-drive the wrong way on highways: such an attempt was unsuccessful in one case I know of but it orphaned two girls I grew up with since their parents' porsche was no match for the large station wagon some guy trying to kill himself was driving.

    Furthermore, I am fundamentally opposed to limiting the rights of one person because another person cannot properly exercise such rights.



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Suicide by firearm is more likely than the scenario that you describe. The most likely person to kill you is your spouse.

    A bad day at work could start with a bottle of liquor, end with a bullet to the brain and in the middle you could be writing a suicide note to your family. Some people don't need that kind of temptation.

    A bad day at work could start with a bottle of liquor, end with a bullet to the brain and in the middle your spouse could be cussing you out for leaving your socks in the floor. Your spouse doesn't need that kind of temptation.

    It's better not to have a gun in your home. The scenario that you are describing is very rare. The scenario of suicide and spousal homicide is very common.
    sounds like you should be advocating banning Liquor.

    Oh wait, remind me how that worked the last time we tried that



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And? So we should disarm everyone to make sure no one commits suicide? Of course some people will, and that's their perrogative. I'd rather have them take themselves out that way than to endanger anyone else jumping off a building or doing something in a car.

    The question in the OP was if you would want a gun or not, and you stated you did, so what else is there?
    In that situation I would want a gun. I don't a gun laying around my house all of the time. I would want a gun in that one in a 552,386 possibility that you described.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sounds like you should be advocating banning Liquor.

    Oh wait, remind me how that worked the last time we tried that
    For the record. I don't advocate banning weapons. I just don't want one in my house.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    If every weak minded loser would do just that, imagine how much better our nation would be.
    Enlighten us. How much better would our nation be?

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    For the record. I don't advocate banning weapons. I just don't want one in my house.
    I believe in free choice. so I support your right to be disarmed



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I prefer people kill themselves with a gun rather than say jump out of buildings, or worse yet-drive the wrong way on highways: such an attempt was unsuccessful in one case I know of but it orphaned two girls I grew up with since their parents' porsche was no match for the large station wagon some guy trying to kill himself was driving.

    Furthermore, I am fundamentally opposed to limiting the rights of one person because another person cannot properly exercise such rights.
    I certainly join you in agreeing that whatever the method , they not create other victims they take with them. But having said that, I cannot imagine what it is like to come home and find a family member who has killed themselves via firearm and find their brains and blood splattered about and have to clean that up. While that family member or loved one is not a dead victim - they certainly are some sort of harmed person just the same.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I certainly join you in agreeing that whatever the method , they not create other victims they take with them. But having said that, I cannot imagine what it is like to come home and find a family member who has killed themselves via firearm and find their brains and blood splattered about and have to clean that up. While that family member or loved one is not a dead victim - they certainly are some sort of harmed person just the same.
    well that is a good point. and I can relate to it. My Godfather-who had already lost one son to a drunk driver and then a grandson to a drowning went to pick up his youngest son for a job interview (a boy who had never been the same ever since his older brother was killed and it only got worse when this boy's son-the product of a marriage that turned into a bitter divorce-drowned when his coked out mother allowed the 2 year old to wander into a neighbors yard and fall into a pool) only to find his son dead from "eating a shotgun". But I don't know if that was any worse than a co-worker-the #2 in our office-found his middle son (who had drug problems) hanging in the family home.

    I really didn't see much difference in the way both these men carried on through life after those tragedies.



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Enlighten us. How much better would our nation be?
    Half our problems are from whiney little pukes that should off themselves the moment the urge strikes them. Harsh? Yes. Real? Yes.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Half our problems are from whiney little pukes that should off themselves the moment the urge strikes them. Harsh? Yes. Real? Yes.
    What is the solution to this major problem? Mandatory firearm ownership?

    Remember. It isn't a problem unless you have a solution.

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