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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I think its funny that there are people that live in a neighborhood like this one below:

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    That live in some mortal fear of some sort of home invasion and thus arm themselves to the teeth against it.... despite the odds of such a thing happening to them in that kind of a community being astronomically small. Yet they might smoke, eat poorly, or not exercise regularly, and thus practically insure they will not live as long as they otherwise would have. And or they allow their kids to eat poorly and become overweight or obese, and thus practically insure that their kids will not live as long as they otherwise would have.

    I say this as a gun owner and I am pro-gun, but it has been my experience though that those that are armed to the teeth because of some irrational fear of being raped or murdered by armed gangs in their home are usually some of the worst judges of actual risk out there.
    Every time you interview people, the first words are "I never thought something like that would happen here". Your assumptions are off base.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    O.M.G.

    Have you attempted to 'throw your mattress up against the door?' As hard or easy as it is to do, same for the intruders. Not to mention that bullets go right thru doors and walls and mattresses.

    Yeah, you better hope the cops are there in less than 5 minutes.

    You are not prepared to defend your family. What if you had kids????
    And you are not aware of the setup of my bedroom. You can shoot all the bullets through those mattresses you want, but if you can't open the door even when you're throwing your body against it, you can't get into the bedroom.

    I'm not stupid, guy. Do you really think I didn't take all that into account?
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Shotgun? Really? And if there are multiple (2-3) attackers coming after a woman? Yeah...you like to assume they'll be scared off by the sound...if they are armed and motivated...why would they be?

    No woman should ever buy into what you are selling....
    Ah. I'm surprised you didn't understand that most people out there can't shoot straight when the crap hits the fan...which is why a shotgun is a much better weapon - even someone with very little training can hit a target when it's within 15 feet - they don't have to take nearly so much time to aim. And before that, you have to remember that nobody - including those 2-3 attackers - wants to die...and that's what they'll be thinking about when they hear that unmistakable sound of the shotgun's action.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    No. Keeping your family out of a gunfight has much higher survival rates than knowingly putting them in the middle of a gunfight where you are out numbered.
    If you and your family have a plan....they wont be 'in the middle' of it.They will be in safe places, behind locked doors, with some type of actual cover. Perhaps they are the ones calling 911.

    Often, the wife...armed or unarmed....goes immediately to the children and is prepared to defend them in place.

    Nothing is foolproof but the fool is the one that does not think ahead and plan and at least try.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    You, who lives "oustide" of the city are 10000 times more likely to get an intruder. I live on a cul-de-sac with two LEOs and a detective. If they are going to break into my house, they'd better do it quietly.
    I dont know where you got that number but how about some sources.

    And it's obvious you have done what you need to sleep at nite. I hope you never find out.

    I hope I never find out.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I think its funny that there are people that live in a neighborhood like this one below:

    Attachment 67166544

    That live in some mortal fear of some sort of home invasion and thus arm themselves to the teeth against it.... despite the odds of such a thing happening to them in that kind of a community being astronomically small. Yet they might smoke, eat poorly, or not exercise regularly, and thus practically insure they will not live as long as they otherwise would have. And or they allow their kids to eat poorly and become overweight or obese, and thus practically insure that their kids will not live as long as they otherwise would have.

    I say this as a gun owner and I am pro-gun, but it has been my experience though that those that are armed to the teeth because of some irrational fear of being raped or murdered by armed gangs in their home are usually some of the worst judges of actual risk out there.

    I have ONE house semi-automatic. That's it.

    Everything else is having a plan and flashlight and a way to call 911 and an actual place to take cover.

    And those are exactly the kind of houses that get broken into...they look well off. Smash and grab....and maybe miss that your wife or a kid is home. I lived on a cul-de-sac like that for 7 yrs before I moved to this place. Our cars, if left on the street or in the driveway, were broken into all the time. So were garages. We just beat the odds I guess that no house was.

    I cant believe how lame the other guy is just assuming his LE neighbors will come to their rescue. Even WOMEN should be ready and prepared to protect themselves and take some action, even if they choose not to use fireams. What kind of a man has a plan that is, "oh it wont happen and if it does, I'll wait for the cops?"
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    I just hope you can differentiate between people who want gun control and people who actually want guns banned from public use.
    What people use guns in public? You mean criminals? I think there are already laws against their crimes...

    So who else is using guns in public?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Ah. I'm surprised you didn't understand that most people out there can't shoot straight when the crap hits the fan...which is why a shotgun is a much better weapon - even someone with very little training can hit a target when it's within 15 feet - they don't have to take nearly so much time to aim. And before that, you have to remember that nobody - including those 2-3 attackers - wants to die...and that's what they'll be thinking about when they hear that unmistakable sound of the shotgun's action.
    True, and depending on the home/neighbors, not everyone can use certain guns. A shotgun is sometimes a good option...but in my case 18 bullets that I can fire fast and whereever I want also works. That is what would work best for ME in my home.

    I cannot imagine why someone thinks they should be able to tell me how many I NEED to save my life in my home. Or in a parking lot accosted by 3 men.

    Because you are right....every video shows even the cops missing with many of their shots. Under all that stress. And yet people would STILL demand I have less bullets and less chance of saving my life.

    (And I practice shooting under some stress, timed, in competition, and moving. I know that it affects you. So it just amazes me that people wish to remove what few advantages I have.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    . Do you really think I didn't take all that into account?
    Yes. I certainly did. Have you actually DONE IT?


    OTOH, my bedroom suite is also rather convoluted and misleading...an advantage...and it also provides real cover, not just concealment....which isnt all that common inside a house. So maybe your set up will keep intruders out for....I dont know....how long will it take the cops to get there?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

    The scenario:
    It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

    The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?
    It's an obvious situation for a gun, but it's also a stretch to make it sound that this is even remotely likely to happen to 99.9999% of the the whole--that's 1 in a million for those who suck at math.

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