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  • I am anti-gun, and I would want a gun.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    And having a gun does not automatically allow you to pass go and collect 200 dollars either.

    The "what if" game does not point to the gun owner winning the contest 100% of the time.
    Of course not. ANY person who thinks that the instant guns are *used* that they will escape unscathed is kidding themselves.

    This is why education is so important. The tons of files on actual gunfights...the number of hits opponents take and keep on shooting (who cares if they die later...they keep shooting for a long time before that).....the reality is that NO ONE wants to be involved in a shooting. The toll will be high. Period. The odds are you WILL be hit and maybe die. Do anti-gun people actual think that people 'prepared to use guns' think that guns are magic shields? We KNOW they are not. That delusion may be their but it is not ours.

    But why should it be one-sided? If you want to open yourself up to victimization, that's fine. I'd rather take the time (and enjoy) to train and be better prepared to defend myself than leave myself open to the whims of someone breaking into my home.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I would rather spend the time and money on making my house harder to break into. It almost seems like some of you on here would welcome a situation like this so you could put your arsenal to use.
    Anyone with a brain knows that even if it's a legally legitimate shoot, the legal fees can be enough to lose you your house....even if found innocent.

    There's no way in Hell I'd use my firearm unless it was absolutely in order to save my life. Which is sad because criminals have no such concerns and that consideration could actually cost me the time it takes to save myself.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    keeping your family alive would be greatly increased by avoiding the gunfight.
    You dont know that at all. What it means is that their lives are 100% in the hands of the attackers...and you are at their mercy...to die or not.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    This is why I have loud alarms on all my outside doors and all my accessible windows - that alone will drive away almost all intruders. It doesn't matter if they cut my phones because my cell's always with me, and the police are only minutes away. They arrived in four minutes when we had a prowler late last year. If the intruders come in the house anyway, I'll toss my mattress against the door - with the way our bedroom is set up, it would be very difficult for them to get past that - and wait for the police. No problem.

    Y'know, I don't have a problem with law-abiding citizens owning guns. What is it about gun nuts that they assume that if someone doesn't want to have guns, that they're automatically out to take everyone's guns away? From the 1970's to today, the percentage of Americans owning guns has dropped from 50% to 35% - and this is mostly just people deciding that they don't want guns.
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    Have you attempted to 'throw your mattress up against the door?' As hard or easy as it is to do, same for the intruders. Not to mention that bullets go right thru doors and walls and mattresses.

    Yeah, you better hope the cops are there in less than 5 minutes.

    You are not prepared to defend your family. What if you had kids????
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I understand. I've often said that while I don't want a gun, if they banned guns, I'd be first in line to buy one illegally. That said, I am strongly against the sale of assault rifles and sniper rifles - there's simply no need - much less any good use - for such in the civilian world. Ditto for long ammo clips and armor-piercing ammo. Besides, if one is really concerned about home defense, the best weapon is a 12-gauge pump-action shotgun, that the burglar can hear that unmistakable sound...and a cell phone with which to call the police.
    Shotgun? Really? And if there are multiple (2-3) attackers coming after a woman? Yeah...you like to assume they'll be scared off by the sound...if they are armed and motivated...why would they be?

    No woman should ever buy into what you are selling....
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who has publicly claimed that FDR's "discovery" of this power was consistent with the founders intent?
    What specific "Founders intent" are you referring to?
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its dishonest and moronic to pretend that the founders-people who had just thrown off England's tyranny and who believed in Natural rights, would delegate all sorts of unwritten powers that have nothing to do with international issues to a national government

    in other words, its unbelievable anyone can say -with a straight face-that retail firearms sales or how an individual citizen keeps and bears arms is something the founders thought was an area of federal concern or federal jurisdiction
    The Founders wrote the document they wrote and it provides the powers it provides.

    In my three years working in the Michigan legislature I worked on many bills. A good percentage of my time was going back to previously enacted legislation which was now on the books as law but had some unforeseen result or consequence that the writer or some backer had no foreseen. All legislatures have this problem and some jokingly call it an effort to clean up behind the elephant which has already walked through town. Why should the results of the Founders work be any different? They provided what they provided and if their powers to look into the future and predict with 100% accuracy the results of their work is not what they may have hoped it would be - then so be it as simply the nature of the game.

    But I will not judge anyones so called intent when that record is not crystal clear and is not at all complete. Playing that game is a losing proposition for everyone as it yields no results which can be said to be 100% accurate and beyond any doubt. I simply accept the document as it is and what it says without trying to play the game of reading the minds of people who have been dead for nearly two centuries now and who live in a world which is no longer with us.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How pathetic. My bedroom is also a safe room. I have a plan and actual cover (not just concealment) in that room. If I had a wife to protect, I'd sure as HELL have at least some plan to protect her.

    And btw, silencers also suppress some muzzle flash and are legal in alot of states....are they legal in TX? Do you know?
    Silencers are not legal in Texas. And no, I didn't have to look that up.

    This is an opinion site, so your's is welcome. However Missy, breaking into my house is much more dangerous than breaking into yours.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You dont know that at all. What it means is that their lives are 100% in the hands of the attackers...and you are at their mercy...to die or not.
    No. Keeping your family out of a gunfight has much higher survival rates than knowingly putting them in the middle of a gunfight where you are out numbered.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What, you assume they'll let you live after they rape her?

    Just as likely shoot you both and burn the house down.

    Me, I'd rather fight for my life than sit and wait to 'see what they'll do to me.'
    You, who lives "oustide" of the city are 10000 times more likely to get an intruder. I live on a cul-de-sac with two LEOs and a detective. If they are going to break into my house, they'd better do it quietly.

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