View Poll Results: Would you want a gun in this situation?

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  • I am anti-gun, and I would want a gun.

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  • I am anti-gun, and I wouldn't want a gun.

    6 8.82%
  • I am pro-gun, and I would want a gun.

    58 85.29%
  • I am pro-gun, and I wouldn't want a gun.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

    The scenario:
    It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

    The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?

    Good luck getting any of the anti-gun nuts to answer.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Violent crime is indeed significantly lower overall in the UK than the US. I'm not blaming that entirely on guns -- I think it's much more socioeconomic factors that cause this.

    Either way, you're way more likely to die from being shot than from being stabbed. As well, it is much harder to stab to death an innocent schoolgirl in the line of fire than it is to shoot her to death.
    Its clear you've not looked at the statistics, but you have gotten one thing right. Guns do make killing easier.

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    These are real, serious examples of how guns can be and are dangerous by their very nature, and not just because of the people using them. Surely you cannot outright deny this?
    Of course not, I should hope my guns are dangerous; Else I'd be in for quite a surprise should I ever have to use one in self defense... for the second time.

    What the hell is the point of a harmless gun? Please look at the statistics, violence crime is on the decline despite increasing guns in the population. In the hands of a good person, guns are dangerous to CRIMINALS.

    Ya know whats more dangerous than guns though? Cars and swimming pools.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm curious about how anti-gunners would feel in real, dangerous situations. It's easy to decry the horrors of gun ownership in the safety of your armchair, but if the lives of you and your family were at risk would your convictions still hold?

    The scenario:
    It's late at night in your house, you and your family are asleep, when armed men break in. You don't know if they're there to rob you, rape you, murder you, or all of the above. At that point would you wish you had a gun?

    The way I see it, if you're anti-gun and would still want a gun to defend yourself in this scenario you're a hypocrite. This isn't an absurd scenario. It happens daily in just about every country in the world. So what say you?
    i don't know if you ever heard this story but its close to yours, and i remember ..... HESTON TALKING ABOUT IT

    during the riots of LA.....the late actor Charlton Heston, was called on the phone by several of his liberal friends of Hollywood, who asked him he they could borrow a firearm from him during that time...which Heston had a huge collection of arms.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not live in fear of unlikely events happening.
    These do not look like unlikely events(just in case this was not brought up in the other posts on this thread).

    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Is your argument that you should call 911 in addition to your own, armed defense...or instead of?
    My argument (of course) that if possible you call 911 AND defend yourself.

    If you have access to a phone. Dial 911. You do not even need to stay on the line - although obviously preferable to give them some info.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And even if you have a fence, if you knew your dogs were that vicious.....you'll be held responsible
    . Probably will be buying these crooks free houses and other niceties.



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Unless he brought a bag of tasty steaks for them to eat up first.



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not answering it in the way you want. You asked a stupid question. I pointed that out. Deal with it.
    Actually, you're simply refusing to answer the question and blaming the question for refusing to answer, which is an answer in and of itself.
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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually, you're simply refusing to answer the question and blaming the question for refusing to answer, which is an answer in and of itself.
    You asked a question anti-2nd amendment zealots refuse to answer.Because anyone with a brain knows that they want a if they are in that situation. Because a cop can't fit in your pocket. Does anyone really want to wait 10,15,20, 30 minutes of more for the police to show up when a home invader is inside your home?**** no people do not want to wait that long when their life is at stake.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You asked a question anti-2nd amendment zealots refuse to answer.Because anyone with a brain knows that they want a if they are in that situation. Because a cop can't fit in your pocket. Does anyone really want to wait 10,15,20, 30 minutes of more for the police to show up when a home invader is inside your home?**** no people do not want to wait that long when their life is at stake.
    That's absolutely correct. There are a lot more than 2 anti-gunners that have been on this thread. The others simply refused to answer a simple yes or no question because how difficult it makes their rationale. "Of course I would want a gun at that moment in time, but that doesn't mean everyone else should have that same ability."
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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